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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454


Original Message   Jun 28, 2008 12:41 am

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454


Reply #165   Jul 6, 2008 8:09 am
CarmineD wrote:
Thank you again for recognizing constructive criticism.  Dyson people were not as gracious on the phone.

BTW, that's a cop out DIB for a permanent fix especially without proof.  It mattered enough in the 1960's for HOOVER to correct on the Dial to add adjustments and even self-propel feature for people with such carpets.  EUREKA too.  And still!

Have things changed that much in the rug industry?  I doubt it.  Not on with my carpets and 2 others whom I gifted the pink DC07 dyson.  Same problem.  Clutch and ratcheting noise getting set off and disengaging the brush bar.  Ops there goes another refurb! 

More logically and practically, it could not be done by dyson even with 450 engineers.  So it made the decision it was not worth doing!

Carmine D.


Carmine,

I do enjoy these conversations (much of the time), when you are right I have no problem saying so.  I do not think is is possible to make a floating head work really good on all types of carpeting without height adjustment.

Having a product that does not satisfy the smallest segment of consumers is by no means a bad thing.  Was every single customer who left your place of business filled with elation?        DIB

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #166   Jul 6, 2008 8:19 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

Having a product that does not satisfy the smallest segment of consumers is by no means a bad thing.  Was every single customer who left your place of business filled with elation?        DIB

      DIB


DIB:

That's a loaded question.  Here's my loaded answer.  ALL the female customers were always.  Regardless of their ages.   99.99999999999 of the male customers.  Never had one complaint formerly registered with a vacuum maker/BBB/Chamber of Commerce in over 40 years of business. 

Had two incidents of attempted robbery in the evening hours.  Overcame both by my lonesome, without the use of a handgun.  I can say with 100 percent certainty the perps did not leave elated!

Carmine D.

This message was modified Jul 6, 2008 by CarmineD
DC18


Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user

Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 294


Reply #167   Jul 6, 2008 8:22 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Hey DC,

Does it work?  Buy the way, it is a big race day for England today, the Silvestone F1 race.  I'll be watching.        DIB

Hi DIB

Yes it does work very well, it has 4 manual settings which if you have it on the wrong one the machine tells you with a red/orange light.  This I believe is sensored by the brush bar itself!  You then change to it until the light goes out!  I used 2 and 3 mainly!  I was quite surprised how well the brush bar on this machine works even when on setting 4 on my medium pile carpet!  The pile get lifted and groomed very well.

Yes it is, I might watch it!

DC18

DC18


Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user

Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 294


Reply #168   Jul 6, 2008 8:24 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hello DC18:

Here's the flaw in your thinking, which in theory is great but practice is not.  It is legendary in the USA with the HOOVER Dial in the early 60's.  Also lauded for self-adjusting floating head.  But murder to push and pull over many of the carpets of the day.  HOOVER added a 3 position manual height adjustment within 1 year and the now famous automatic power drive shortly after.

The floating head 'sinks' into medium and high carpets [especially with backing and padding].  Making the dysons DC07 and DC14 hard to push and pull.  And setting off the clutch shut off on the brush bar. 

Carmine D.


Thanks for you thoughts Carmine D.

DC18

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454


Reply #169   Jul 6, 2008 8:29 am
DC18 wrote:
Hi DIB

Yes it does work very well, it has 4 manual settings which if you have it on the wrong one the machine tells you with a red/orange light.  This I believe is sensored by the brush bar itself!  You then change to it until the light goes out!  I used 2 and 3 mainly!  I was quite surprised how well the brush bar on this machine works even when on setting 4 on my medium pile carpet!  The pile get lifted and groomed very well.

Yes it is, I might watch it!

DC18



DC,

You're saying this auto-height adjustment (non-motorized) still requires a manual switch?  Thanks.        DIB


CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #170   Jul 6, 2008 8:33 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

Having a product that does not satisfy the smallest segment of consumers is by no means a bad thing.         DIB


DIB:

From dyson product literature:

A dyson vacuum cleaner has excellent dirt pick-up from ALL surfaces-not just carpets.

It doesn't say except some.  In fact it's one of 4 reasons dyson says customers should buy dysons.

Well, Dusty: Mr. Wordsmither, what do you think when dyson uses the collective ALL versus me?  Gets a pass?  Like LNT and BBB?

Carmine D.

This message was modified Jul 6, 2008 by CarmineD
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #171   Jul 6, 2008 8:38 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Carmine,

I do enjoy these conversations (much of the time), when you are right I have no problem saying so.        DIB


Who makes that determination?  You?  The dyson fans?  Me?  Let me know, I want to meet the person.

The truth is the truth, regardless if no one believes it.  A falsehood is false even if everyone believes it. 

Carmine D.

DC18


Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user

Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 294


Reply #172   Jul 6, 2008 8:54 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
DC,

You're saying this auto-height adjustment (non-motorized) still requires a manual switch?  Thanks.        DIB

DIB

Sorry misread your point, the Sebo Felix is fully manual height adjustment no auto involved!

Be interesting to see how a non-motorized auto height adjustment mechanisium works!

DC18

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454


Reply #173   Jul 6, 2008 9:01 am
DC18 wrote:
DIB

Sorry misread your point, the Sebo Felix is fully manual height adjustment no auto involved!

Be interesting to see how a non-motorized auto height adjustment mechanisium works!

DC18



No problem.        DIB


dusty


Joined: Feb 8, 2008
Points: 264


Reply #174   Jul 6, 2008 11:44 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Thanks.  I read a Sebo patent that said it had a non-motorized auto height adjustment mechanisium.  Sebo said one of the advantages to non-motorized was that motorized was problematic due to motor failure or alike.  Have  you or anyone ever seen a Sebo non-motorized height adjustment?        DIB

Hi DIB,

Add the Sebo G3 to the list of manual height adjusted units. It's basically a commercial version of the X4 series.  Odd about the problem of motor failure..I think I've only ever replaced one of the servo units in all the time we've carried Sebo.

Dusty
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