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DysonInventsBig


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Original Message   Jun 28, 2008 12:41 am

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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CarmineD


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Reply #131   Jul 5, 2008 8:28 am
HS:

Go back and read the first quote of mine you posted.  And have another cup!  The first didn't work.

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


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Reply #132   Jul 5, 2008 8:32 am
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

Go back and read the first quote of mine you posted.  And have another cup!  The first didn't work.

Carmine D.



That was your opinion.  Then you said that CR is critical of uprights, not just full size.
CarmineD


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Reply #133   Jul 5, 2008 8:34 am
And CR is critical of uprights without adjustments.  But I said that rug height adjustments are standard for full sized uprights in the USA.  Not CR.  Get the facts and sources straight.  2 cups of joe may help.

Carmine D.

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DysonInventsBig


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Reply #134   Jul 5, 2008 10:10 am
Hello, Today July 5th HSN's "Today Special" is a Dyson DC07 (white on dark grey) packaged/bundled deal.  The bundled deal is - It comes with 3 extra tools and free shipping.

Question:  Are independent Dyson dealers allowed by Dyson to match this bundle and price?  If not, what can they do to respond to such a price?  Thanks.        DIB

Taken from HSN's web site...
Today's Price: $379.95
HSN Price: $429.95
 | You Save: $50.00
Retail Value: $549.78
FREE Shipping & Handling
Item: 345-186
Dyson DC07 Upright Cyclonic Vacuum Cleaner Includes: (The extras are highlighted in orange)

  • Crevice tool
  • Stair tool (floor tool)
  • Brush tool
  • Soft brush tool
  • Hard floor tool
  • Mini turbine head
  • Quick Start guide
  • Product manual
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dusty


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Reply #135   Jul 5, 2008 10:26 am
You  could also add Riccar, Panasonic, Sharp and Aerus to the list of units without height adjustments. Pretty big names not following the "american standard".

Dusty
CarmineD


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Reply #136   Jul 5, 2008 3:03 pm
dusty wrote:
You  could also add Riccar, Panasonic, Sharp and Aerus to the list of units without height adjustments. Pretty big names not following the "american standard".

Dusty

Hello Dusty:

Depends on how you define "big names."  These brands typically are indy stores and not big box retailers.  Do you know some big box store brands sold along side dyson that don't have [headlights] and/or manual rug height adjustments?

Carmine D.

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dusty


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Reply #137   Jul 5, 2008 3:45 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Dusty:

Depends on how you define "big names."  These brands typically are indy stores and not big box retailers.  Do you know some big box store brands sold along side dyson that don't have [headlights] and/or manual rug height adjustments?

Carmine D.


Your original quote was that height adjustments were standard for ALL full size USA uprights.  Now it matters where  the product is sold?  Shall we assume most high end indy product is poor because it lacks a height adjustment?    For the record, last time I checked  Panasonic was sold in box stores, Eureka have models with no height adjustment as do Kenmore.  IMO the height adjust is  useless for most people,  the majority of machines that come in for repair are almost always set to the lowest setting.

Dusty
CarmineD


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Reply #138   Jul 5, 2008 5:23 pm
Dusty:

I stick by my statement.  Rug height adjustments are the standard for the industry for full size uprights.  Standard meaning the norm.  The norm because the majority of full sized uprights sold in big box stores and indy-s have rug height adjustments.  Is that better wordsmithing for all the dyson menschkins?

The point that I was making before this thread got diverted is this:  The dyson DC07 and DC14 are not suited for many USA carpets.  Why?  3 simple reasons.  First, the puny brush bar.  Not the industry standard in the USA.  Second, the lack of a rug height adjustment.  Also not the industry standard.  Third, the silly clutch brush bar shut off that is designed for obstructions.  It is engaged too easily by many of the carpets in the USA, unlike the UK. 

The latter so much so, dyson has a work around for it.  Remove the permanent gaskets on the permanent dyson soleplate.  One gasket first, and if that doesn't work, then the other.  If these work arounds don't work, then you're told to return the dyson.  Why?  Because if dysons won't work on your carpets after these 2 work arounds, they just won't work.  Period.  Which gets me back to my original point.  Not made for USA carpets especially if big box store venues.  Buyers get them home.  They don't work.  They are returned.  Ops. There's another dyson refurb.

Carmine D.

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DC18


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Reply #139   Jul 5, 2008 5:34 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello DC18

Yes, I have.  I travelled through all the countries of Europe.  And for a time, thought seriously of starting a vacuum business there.  Thank you for asking.

No where in Europe are rugs and carpets as prevalent as they are here in the USA.  The USA households, with wall-to-wall carpeting, have matting/padding [some very high] which adds more height and depth to the carpet height.  Do you have that in the UK?   

The DC07 and 14, with their heavy rug head nozzles and no manual rug height adjustments [standard for all full size USA uprights] are hard to push and pull on many US rugs [especially with matting/padding added].  In turn, causing the typical classic dyson ratcheting noise so familiar with these models.

The dyson clutch and brush bar shut off [btw, puny dyson brush not meeting US industry standards] is meant for obstructions [in the UK].  Not to be engaged frequently during normal rug cleaning use [as it does with US med to high pile with backing].  

The combination of the puny dyson brush bar, clutch shut off, and lack of manual rug height adjustments are all the reasons that these models are not suited for many USA carpets.   

Carmine D.


Thanks for answering my question Carmine D.   Most UK houses have carpets (although in the 90's at least woodern floors were the in thing!, carpets making a comeback!) somewhere if not allover or in most rooms.  We have what we call 'under lay' under neath the carpet which can be different thicknesses!  Some carpet come back the under lay attached to the back (usually very thin)

I wouldn't say the pivoting head on the DC07 and DC14 are heavy (in my opinion)!  The idea or function is for it to float on top of the carpet.  How I see it thinker\longer pile carpet surely let air flow easier through the carpet piles unlike shorter\low pile carpets!

DC18

CarmineD


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Reply #140   Jul 5, 2008 5:52 pm
dusty wrote:
You  could also add Riccar without height adjustments. Pretty big name not following the "american standard".

Dusty



BTW, the RICCAR Brilliance and Radiance, its top of the line uprights, have manual rug height adjustments.  As well as the 1800 RICCAR Premium canister and the 1700 RICCAR Simplicity canister.  Both top of the line full size canister vacuums.  6 position if I recall correctly.  Also the RICCAR 1500 Series canisters [mid size] have 6 position height adjustments.  If I recall.

None of the dysons do.  NONE.

Carmine D.

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