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DysonInventsBig


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Original Message   Jun 28, 2008 12:41 am

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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Airblade


Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 180


Reply #86   Jul 3, 2008 9:47 am
mole wrote:
I agree MATT, is this where dysons typically get blocked?, From my experience with serviceing them the blocks are further up at the inlet hose and brushroll area.

All vacuums clog,no manufacturer other than dyson makes the claim that theirs dont.

Yes the early model 07 had the tabs for the duct removeal,many were off by accident and brought in for service,

My advice to dyson would be to take all the different angles that the air has to move through to get to the end of the system,this would also bring the high temperatures down to where the casings would not distort so much.

MOLE


The u-bend is a clogging point for only the wand.........there is no airflow through it when the brushroll is engaged.
mole


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Reply #87   Jul 3, 2008 9:53 am
Thanks Matt, does dyson use a built in divertor valve, for attachment use?

MOLE

Airblade


Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 180


Reply #88   Jul 3, 2008 10:03 am
Not sure on the technical name.......but yes, there is a valve that automatically diverts the airflow
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #89   Jul 3, 2008 4:17 pm
Airblade wrote:
I've just been shaking my head at this crazy topic of conversation.  Jack D is correct.  The original u-bend was changed because it was mistaken as a foot pedal, however it is still removable by end users.


Hey Matt the scat:

Thanks.  You should remember that years ago and here too I was the FIRST person that  criticized the thumb tab on the U bend air way joint on the DC07.  Saying users stepped on it to release the dyson handle.  Then couldn't reinstall.  And w/o it, no suction in the tool mode.  Mike W. knows too [the invisible man].  Thanks MIke for your assistance here. 

It's called let's divert the criticism away from dyson which IS the problem and spin it toward Carmine D.  You know that by now.  Your band of happy rabid dysoners are experts at the game.  It makes me laugh with a heart of joy.  And solidifies my position on dysons. 

These menschkins know the thumb tab idea was a joke.  Shame on the 450 dyson engineers.  Not to mention that it violates the cardinal rule of Mr. D's autobiography that users should not have to bend over to fiddle with controls and switches.  Does that include removing/reinstalling the joint [with and without the tab press] ?

The original ubend airway joint required the user to install in many cases on the DC-07's new out of the box.  Why?  Because the poor dyson quality control let them go out off the vacuum and/or the piece came off in shipping and/or in opening and displaying.  Isn't that right Matt?  And many of the store staff didn't know how and what to do with the pieces.  That's the reason the DC07 was retooled and refitted to be permanently on the vacuum [out of the box]  unless removed by the user. 

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Reply #90   Jul 3, 2008 4:59 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hey Matt the scat:

Thanks.  You should remember that years ago and here too I was the FIRST person that  criticized the thumb tab on the U bend air way joint on the DC07.  Saying users stepped on it to release the dyson handle.  Then couldn't reinstall.  And w/o it, no suction in the tool mode.  Mike W. knows too [the invisible man].  Thanks MIke for your assistance here. 

It's called let's divert the criticism away from dyson which IS the problem and spin it toward Carmine D.  You know that by now.  Your band of happy rabid dysoners are experts at the game.  It makes me laugh with a heart of joy.  And solidifies my position on dysons. 

These menschkins know the thumb tab idea was a joke.  Shame on the 450 dyson engineers.  Not to mention that it violates the cardinal rule of Mr. D's autobiography that users should not have to bend over to fiddle with controls and switches.  Does that include removing/reinstalling the joint [with and without the tab press] ?

The original ubend airway joint required the user to install in many cases on the DC-07's new out of the box.  Why?  Because the poor dyson quality control let them go out off the vacuum and/or the piece came off in shipping and/or in opening and displaying.  Isn't that right Matt?  And many of the store staff didn't know how and what to do with the pieces.  That's the reason the DC07 was retooled and refitted to be permanently on the vacuum [out of the box]  unless removed by the user. 

Carmine D.

I know how easily you forget.  I hilighted in red your claim that the u-bend on the DC07 is not removable.

Pass the crow please.      American Crow

Your truths are not so true.

Motor:

Here's the truth.  Within the first year of launch, dyson retooled the DC07 u-bend air way joint.  Making it permanent on the DC07-s and not removable.  It was removable originally on the first and early DC-07's supposedly to allow users to clear clogs/blockages.  It had a yellow thumb tab on it to depress to remove/attach.  People thought it was the handle release and would step on the thumb tab.  The piece came off and most stores' staff didn't know how to attach it.  It remained along side the dyson display model/still in the box never used.  Result:  No suction in the tool mode.  Fix:  Dyson knew a buck item was poised to derail its launch, and made the piece permanent.  Quick like. 

Good thing ORECK stayed the course and took dyson to court.  I have not seen the latest DC24/25 product lit.  But, if dyson is still using the false claim, then dyson is violating the NAD ruling and subject to punitive and monetary disciplinary actions.  Dyson isn't that stupid.  Even the dyson retailers have long dropped the use of the false dyson claim.  

Carmine D. 

CarmineD


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Reply #91   Jul 3, 2008 5:04 pm
Your truths are not so true.
Motor:

Here's the truth.  Within the first year of launch, dyson retooled the DC07 u-bend air way joint.  Making it permanent on the DC07-s and not removable.  It was removable originally on the first and early DC-07's supposedly to allow users to clear clogs/blockages.  It had a yellow thumb tab on it to depress to remove/attach.  People thought it was the handle release and would step on the thumb tab.  The piece came off and most stores' staff didn't know how to attach it.  It remained along side the dyson display model/still in the box never used.  Result:  No suction in the tool mode.  Fix:  Dyson knew a buck item was poised to derail its launch, and made the piece permanent.  Quick like. 

Carmine D. 

Hello HS:

I highlighted in bold italics with underlining the portion you didn't.  Included a definition of "permanent;"  [From Random House Webster's College edition]:

1. Existing perpetually; everlasting; 2.  intended to serve, function, etc for a long indefinite period.   

The current does, the old didn't.

Carmine D. 

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Reply #92   Jul 3, 2008 5:08 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Dusty:

You're in Canada, and it was late to the dyson sales game.  Just the last 3 years if I understood correctly.  I suspect you're getting old dyson DC07 stock before the u bend airway was made permanent.  And the dyson pics are old.  All the DC07-s now in the USA [that I have seen in stores since the launch of 2002] have a permanent u bend airway joint.  The removable one has been obsolete here in the USA.  I speak with experience in several states on both coasts.

It's an important piece.  Without it, the vacuum has no suction in the tool mode. [FYI: The DC07 pink I bought in August 2006 from TARGET had a very permanent u bend airway joint with no thumb tab to be seen and still does]. 

Carmine D.



What coasts did you visit to find DC07's with a non removable u-bend?  You tell a new member that you had 40 years in business then became a consultant. Yet, you did not know how to remove the u-bend on your DC07.  I always suspected that as a consultant you advised against Dyson and it bit you in the a$$.  They fired you and you have bashed Dyson ever since.

You should have had your wife assist you with the Dyson since she is more savy than you.

CarmineD


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Reply #93   Jul 3, 2008 5:16 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Dusty:

You're in Canada, and it was late to the dyson sales game.  Just the last 3 years if I understood correctly.  I suspect you're getting old dyson DC07 stock before the u bend airway was made permanent.  And the dyson pics are old.  All the DC07-s now in the USA [that I have seen in stores since the launch of 2002] have a permanent u bend airway joint.  The removable one has been obsolete here in the USA.  I speak with experience in several states on both coasts.

It's an important piece.  Without it, the vacuum has no suction in the tool mode. [FYI: The DC07 pink I bought in August 2006 from TARGET had a very permanent u bend airway joint with no thumb tab to be seen and still does]. 

Carmine D.

HS:

I highlighted in bold with italics and underlines the part you omitted. 

Perhaps if the DC07 pink worked on my carpets and clogged, I would have had the occasion to remove the ubend joint.  But since it didn't work, I didn't have reason to remove.  The DC07 with the ubend airway is permanently removed from my home.  Soon to be permanently removed from retailers' shelves.

Carmine D.

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mole


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Reply #94   Jul 3, 2008 5:25 pm
Is Dyson going to give them credit on the dysons left sitting on the warehouse shelves or is that against the dyson rules.

Yea this makes a lot of business sense lets replace the dysons that were stuck with,with more dysons were going to be stuck with.

Now you know why the INDYS told them to take a hike.

anyone want a pallet load of dc15 $#%* that someone wants to get rid of...........

MOLE
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894


Reply #95   Jul 3, 2008 5:37 pm
Hey MOLE man:

Good question.  Back in 2005 when Wal*Mart scrubbed the DC07 All Floors for the HOOVER FUSION, dyson took back the WM dyson inventory.  WM insisted on cash in return, no credits.  Dyson forked it up and unloaded all the WM dysons on BEST BUY stores.  A ship load.  The BB stores are still selling them 3 plus years later with still more in warehouses stored yet to be sold.  BB was upset with dyson over this maneuver.  But went along for the ride.  A rough one.  Still.  3 plus years later.  And the DC07-s are getting kicked around at clearance prices by all retailers to unload. 

At the rate dyson is going, it will be passed 3 digits in model numbers and BB will still be selling the DC07-s.  By then they should priced at their true worth.  Buy 1 get 3 free.  And a DC16 Hand Held included free.

Carmine D.

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