Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

The BISSELL Healthy Home Users Guide says "should" not must.    There is no mention of the word 'minimum' in the Guide.  You quoted the text out of context which resulted in a pretext.

Carmine D.

There you go lying again.  I wrote my post from memory, and not from pretext.  I gladly and easily swap must for should.

One of Tom Gasko's arguments at the time, like DIB now with the BISSELL Healthy Home, was the need to change the HEPA filter in the Eureka for $25 each time.  My comment to him then was that I doubled up on the foam pre-motor filter in the Eureka bagless Whirlwind and I had not changed the HEPA filter [for over 6 years].  No loss in performance [read suction] and no noticeable air emissions degradation.  Why?  My dear Wife, as an allergy and sinus sufferer and primary user of the Whirlwind, would have noticed and let me know.   I believe the pre-motor filter cost $3.00.  I cleaned them [read vacuum] once a month.   Replaced them yearly. 

For those who remember the written debate, I said the Eureka bagless Whirwind upright for $100 was a deal and gifted more than 6 away over the years, including my own eventually.   Some of these Eurekas are still in use after many years.  Always adding the extra pre-motor filter to the vacuum before gifting.  I mentioned then that I liked the Whirlwind in part too because of a plastic shroud that covered the motor.  Unheard of in a $100 vacuum.

The Eureka Whirlwind Cyclonic bagless upright was a long running popular selling vacuum for Eureka.  Like the HOOVER Tempo, one of my favorites. 

Carmine D.

Carmine,  No matter what brand is discussed (other than Dyson)  you seem to own it and rotate brands in your daily vacuuming.  I would expect a vacuum to last for years when it has dozens or maybe hundreds of back ups and is not used more than a few times each year.

Why do you criticize plastic useage in Dysons and praise other brands for using it?  Same old double standard against Dyson I suppose.

Hello My Friend:

I've owned and tried [to use] a new DC07 pink in my current home here in Las Vegas.  Gifted it away after several months rather than return it as dyson recommended.  It didn't work on my carpets.  Gawdawful ratcheting noise kept happening.  My poor Wife and dog had to leave the house whenever I started to use it.

The Eureka vice dyson debate between Tom [then called dualcyclone] and I was before your time here and on a different forum.  Like I said earlier, Eureka was the first company and vacuum in the USA to don the "cyclonic" name on its vacuums.  Long before dyson did.   And Eureka didn't sue [like dyson would].

I have always had favorite affordable "value" vacuums.  Why?

After spending 40 plus years in the vacuum business, lots of people always ask me [still do, even email] what is a good upright vacuum that will not cost me an arm and leg.  I respond to the question with an answer based on my [and my dear Wife] personal and professional judgement and experience.  Before the HOOVER TEMPO, it was the Eureka bagged/bagless upright.  Posters and readers who follow the vacuum Forums starting in 1997 [pre-dyson] will recall.  You're a newcomer [post dyson].

I gift these away to friends and family when I am done using [read testing].  In part, to track the vacuums' service and performance after my usage in our homes.  There is at least one poster on this Forum who will verify that I've gifted a new HOOVER product to him [not the TEMPO].   The HOOVER Slider.  It's used in my home. I've gifted more than a dozen away to friends and family.  If HOOVER marketed this, I think every home in the US would have at least one.  Retails for $25-$40.  I've posted a review on here.  As I do all the products I use and I think are a value. 

And another poster here will tell you I gifted 2 new HOOVER vacuums to local churches this past Christmas: One, a HOOVER Z to be used in a commercial cleaning setting; and another a HOOVER TEMPO for a needy parish family.

Carmine D. 

Mr. Apollinax:

You're a good man.

What's old is new again, as Mike W. likes to say.  Very true for the vacuum industry and has always been.

Back in the day when tanks with cloth bags ruled and reigned supreme, vacuum manufacturers took good care to "sure" up the pre-motor filters in vacuums.  Why?  To reduce the dust and debris that got past the cloth from getting into the motor compartment.  For obvious reasons.  To protect and extend the motor life and improve the exhaust air [smell and content].

How did they do this?  Most would sandwich the filter material, which was very primitive by today's standards, between screen wire and/or fine mesh and then enclosed in a rubber gasket.  To give the filter material strength, support, and substance; absorb motor heat; and seal the air [read dirt leakage] from entering the motor.  In order to extend filter life and keep and prolong peak motor performance. Most times these filters were rarely replaced and instead merely vacuumed cleaned. 

These pre-motor filters and set ups went by the wayside as filter paper bags appeared in the 50's and 60's and flourished in the industry.  With bagless vacuums, these pre-motor filters [and ways to improve their longevity] have made a resurgence.  And rightly so.  A clogged pre-motor filter is the quickest way to burn up a motor.  Both then and now.

BTW, the Eureka Whirlwind bagless was a signature gray and yellow.  Just like the dyson DC07 All Floors.  Except the Whirlwind came first.

Carmine D.