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DysonInventsBig
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Dyson vacuum & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Original Message Nov 22, 2007 12:23 am |
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #234 Jul 5, 2008 8:26 am |
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HS: I tried. No luck. Computer won't compute. Or TARGET won't hit. Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #235 Jul 5, 2008 8:32 am |
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HS: I tried. No luck. Computer won't compute. Or TARGET won't hit. Carmine D. Target site is slow this AM
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #236 Jul 5, 2008 8:36 am |
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Maybe it needs some coffee too like you! I'm not aware of a red DC07 at TARGET stores that was launched in 2006. It's a full time job keeping up with all the different variations that dyson has on the same theme. I recall the red DC14 Drive in 2006 which was promoted with extra tools for car cleaning. These extra tools distinguished it from other DC14 models being sold by US retailers. The latter was recently discounted and sold at clearance prices by TARGET stores. They were all cleared out before the DC24 and 25 made it to the shelves in LV stores. Red DC07. Not a clue. Since you so good with pictures, how about posting it here! I'd like to see it and my computer and the TARGET site isn't working for some reason. Carmine D.
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #238 Jul 5, 2008 10:49 am |
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Hey DC18: Like I said, it's the normal course of business. The DC07, to answer Matt, stayed the course not because of its popularity. It's not that good for rug cleaning. Evidence: Kapoc rug test and less than mediocre Consumer Reports ratings especially for carpet cleaning. There's just so many DC07 and 14-s that were made and sold to big box retailers that are still on shelves and warehouses unsold after 6 years. Plus, dyson adding new models every year competing for sales with all of these old models. The reason Wal*Mart never carried the dyson line. But reluctantly agreed to exclusive models which struck out 2 times, 3 if you count the DC07 All Floors. Not because Wal*Mart, the largest US big box retailer, didn't want the latest and greatest. It did. But it wanted to discount the old models to make room. Dyson had a hissy fit. And Wal*Mart kicked dyson out. At least until dyson gravolled back. The prices on these new DC07-s are dropping fast as well in the USA. So are their refurbs. And as you would expect, there are alot of dyson DC07 refurbs. Carmine D.
Hello Carmine, Can you tell us (me) the Walmart "kicked" Dyson out story (year and month if possible). Walmart shafting vendors is common place, so how do we know Walmart simply did not give Dyson the shaft too? DIB
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #239 Jul 5, 2008 3:06 pm |
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HS is correct. There is a DC07 Red and it is a Target exclusive. It is primarily the same as a DC07 All Floors, just in Target's colors.
It's also out of stock. And it doesn't say "temporarily." It's not listed on the current TARGET Site with dyson vacuums and parts. Neither is the DC14 Drive. What happened to the red DC07 and DC14 Drive at TARGET? Both scrubbed by TARGET?
Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #240 Jul 5, 2008 3:08 pm |
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Hello Carmine, Can you tell us (me) the Walmart "kicked" Dyson out story (year and month if possible). Walmart shafting vendors is common place, so how do we know Walmart simply did not give Dyson the shaft too? DIB
Sure. WM had the DC07 All Carpets as an exclusive. It had a $359 MSRP. Probably the best dyson ever made and sold in the USA. For whatever reason it was scrubbed. Maybe lack of sales. Then WM got the DC07 All Floors. WM discounted it on sale for $319 during one of its price roll back sales. This typically was the roll back price for the All Carpets. So from WM's thinking it was okay.
Dyson scoffed. WM thumbed its nose at dyson and basically said like it or lump it. Dyson fussed and had a hissy fit. WM said sayonora to dyson and kicked them out. Can't recall the exact time. Maybe Spring/Summer 2005. Matt can say for sure, I'm sure. From my perspective, the shaft was from dyson. Why? Dyson grovelled and a new deal was struck. The DC07 Original: A WM exclusive. MSRP of $379. Problem was it only had a 2 year warranty while all the other retailers' dysons [including the DC07's for $399] had 5 years. It didn't sell. People went to other WM competitors and spent the other $20 for the DC07 with a 5 year warranty. Like BBB and LNT and then used the 20 percent off the $399. Ironically, the WM DC07 Orignal is being sold now for $320. And dyson isn't saying anything to WM about the price reduction. Fry's is selling the DC07 All Floors for $299. As well as other retailers. No gripes from dyson. Carmine D.
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DC18
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #241 Jul 5, 2008 5:47 pm |
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Hey DC18: Like I said, it's the normal course of business. The DC07, to answer Matt, stayed the course not because of its popularity. It's not that good for rug cleaning. Evidence: Kapoc rug test and less than mediocre Consumer Reports ratings especially for carpet cleaning. There's just so many DC07 and 14-s that were made and sold to big box retailers that are still on shelves and warehouses unsold after 6 years. Plus, dyson adding new models every year competing for sales with all of these old models. The reason Wal*Mart never carried the dyson line. But reluctantly agreed to exclusive models which struck out 2 times, 3 if you count the DC07 All Floors. Not because Wal*Mart, the largest US big box retailer, didn't want the latest and greatest. It did. But it wanted to discount the old models to make room. Dyson had a hissy fit. And Wal*Mart kicked dyson out. At least until dyson gravolled back. The prices on these new DC07-s are dropping fast as well in the USA. So are their refurbs. And as you would expect, there are alot of dyson DC07 refurbs. Carmine D. Hello Carmine D
The DC07 may not have been popular in the US (I can't say!) other say differently, I would of thought it was for it to be still on sale in the US! What I can say is it was very popular in the UK, probably because of it's very powerful suction for one! DC18
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DysonInventsBig
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #242 Jul 5, 2008 5:57 pm |
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Hello Carmine, Can you tell us (me) the Walmart "kicked" Dyson out story (year and month if possible). Walmart shafting vendors is common place, so how do we know Walmart simply did not give Dyson the shaft too? DIB Sure. WM had the DC07 All Carpets as an exclusive. It had a $359 MSRP. Probably the best dyson ever made and sold in the USA. For whatever reason it was scrubbed. Maybe lack of sales. Then WM got the DC07 All Floors. WM discounted it on sale for $319 during one of its price roll back sales. This typically was the roll back price for the All Carpets. So from WM's thinking it was okay. Dyson scoffed. WM thumbed its nose at dyson and basically said like it or lump it. Dyson fussed and had a hissy fit. WM said sayonora to dyson and kicked them out. Can't recall the exact time. Maybe Spring/Summer 2005. Matt can say for sure, I'm sure. From my perspective, the shaft was from dyson. Why? Dyson grovelled and a new deal was struck. The DC07 Original: A WM exclusive. MSRP of $379. Problem was it only had a 2 year warranty while all the other retailers' dysons [including the DC07's for $399] had 5 years. It didn't sell. People went to other WM competitors and spent the other $20 for the DC07 with a 5 year warranty. Like BBB and LNT and then used the 20 percent off the $399. Ironically, the WM DC07 Orignal is being sold now for $320. And dyson isn't saying anything to WM about the price reduction. Fry's is selling the DC07 All Floors for $299. As well as other retailers. No gripes from dyson. Carmine D. Carmine, Thanks, I think. 2005 is the year Hoover came out with the Fusion, which Dyson claims infringed on their dual cyclone patent/s. According to a lawyer representing Dyson at the Dyson v. Hoover trial, “The company (Hoover) was under ``extreme'' pressure to provide a new model to Wal-Mart Stores Inc., one of Hoover's biggest customers.” Hoover answered with their so-called “No Loss of Suction” vacuum - the Fusion. In fact and very telling of WM’s dishonesty (or as they say "It's just business."), long after NAD told Hoover not to advertise the Fusion as a No Loss vacuum WM continued advertising the bunk No Loss claim on their online Fusion page. Dyson got screwed twice (by Hoover and WM) IMO. DIB
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CarmineD
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Re: Dyson & other vacuum related videos & photos...
Reply #243 Jul 5, 2008 6:35 pm |
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Linens-n-Things got the best of dyson. Dyson came down hard on Wal*Mart for selling DC07-s with an MSRP of $399 on a roll back sale for $319 [20 percent discount]. LNT and BBB sell them for $320 for years and years as the normal course of business and get a pass. Why? Isn't dyson holding WM to a higher standard than BBB and LNT? Dyson is suing LNT now for non-payment. Stand in line. Dyson will be lucky to get pennies on the dollar in 10 years from now. Dyson should have given the pass to WM and held LNT and BBB's feet to the fire. If dyson did, you would see more of the dyson vacuums in Wal*Mart stores. Not just one upright model intermittently over the last 6 years [and soon to be no more]. Dyson needed Wal*Mart to bring the 10 percent market share in the USA up. Wal*Mart didn't need dysons to be the top retailer in 2008. Best in profit. Best in stock price. Best in stock dividend to share holders. In an economic slow down in the USA. That will probably continue for 1-2 more years. All the while not one dyson will be sold off a WM shelf. That is hurting dyson sales in the USA and will for the next few years. Carmine D.
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