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Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
#1   Jun 29, 2009 10:33 am
Venson wrote:
I guess I'm beginning to think like Carmine.


I'm very sorry - what did the doctors say?
Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
#2   Jun 29, 2009 10:30 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Model2 and thanks for the YouTube clip.  I was disappointed by it.  Despite its length its lacking a good demo of the new product.  Couldn't hear the questions and even answers on occasion.  James looks terrible in the video considering he is pitching his latest technology and product. 

My question about the noise level was answered.  My 12 year old lab was half asleep/awake about 3 feet away from the computer.  I turned the speakers on low [my dear Wife is asleep], when James hit the power button on the handheld, the motor squealed like a trapped pig, and my lab jumped up and ran out.

Carmine D.


There was no smoke-and-mirrors "demo" of the product. All in attendance - media reps, journalists, etc. were gifted DC31s, allowing them to try the product out in their own home environment, and subject it to any task or performance test they should wish to.

Re: Dyson DC31 Handheld cleaner
#3   Jun 29, 2009 7:28 am
Re: Clear Sebo
#4   Jun 7, 2009 11:02 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Thanks Model2.  You've now added something new into the SEBO dirt by-pass system mix.   You NOW say the SEBO motor is sucking air out of the bag/bag compartment.  Before you said just the bag.  Did the diagram change your mind?  Does the motor suck the air out of the bag and/or out of the bag compartment and/or both?    If it's both, tell me which air is sucked out first: The bag air and/or the bag compartment air?  Or, do you believe the motor sucks out the air in both places simultaneously at the same rate?

Carmine D.



Oh dear, Carmine. Writhing around again to cover up the fact you've just - very publically - blown all your "credibility" to shreds! Ka-boom! I'm embarrassed for you.

All I've done is elaborated, at your request, on my original statement (which no one else seems to have had any trouble understanding!). I've explained the concept, Trilobite's explained the concept...if you still can't grasp this very simple idea, go and do some research, rather than demanding that everyone spoon-feed you.

Re: Clear Sebo
#5   Jun 7, 2009 8:17 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Please forgive me for not posting the responses as to how the motor sucks air through the bag.  Much too long and I think we've seen them several times already.  If SEBO, and any by-pass dirt path system sucks air through the bag, how does the bag inflate?  If air is sucked through [out] by the motor shouldn't the bag deflate?  

Carmine D.

Are you for real, Carmine - this is a serious question? I'm really hoping for your own sake that this is some joke which I don't get because it's not funny...

The bag inflates within the compartment because as the motor is sucking air out of the bag/bag compartment, an equal volume is rushing in (carrying the dirt with it) to take its place - it's a continuous process while the machine is running. However, the bag creates resistance to the airstream (more so as the pores clog with dirt), the air 'pushing' against the walls of the bag as it struggles through - an increase in pressure in the bag. This pressure difference causes the bag to inflate. The pressure dynamic changes constantly as the bag fills with dirt - as the pores clog, the resistance grows to the point where the motor can no longer move a sufficient amount of air through the bag to clean properly. A 'loss of suction', if you will...

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