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djarchow


Joined: Jan 7, 2014
Points: 4

Help with Ariens snowblower decision
Original Message   Jan 7, 2014 12:27 pm
My old Deere 726 is on it's lastlegs. Looking at a $300 repair. I am considering buying a new Ariens in the next day or two. Local dealers have the following blowers:

2013 Deluxe 30 with the trigger differential lock and I think the 342cc briggs engine for $1399

2014 Deluxe 30 with new Auto Turn and the 291cc LCT engine for $1299 at another dealer which I don't really want to buy from if I can help it

2013 Platinum 30 with the Traction Control differential and the 342cc briggs engine for $1599

2014 Platinum 30 with new Auto Turn and the 414cc LCT engine for $1599

I am leaning toward the Platinum 30 for the extra power although the 2013 deluxe 30 has the larger Briggs engine if I want the trigger differential vs auto turn.

 I guess it comes down to Briggs vs LCT and autoturn vs trigger. On the engines, two dealers I have talked to have said they have had no real problems with the LCT engines except for some availability on carb parts.

Any suggestions?

Thanks for any help

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snowday


Joined: Feb 6, 2013
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Re: Help with Ariens snowblower decision
Reply #5   Jan 7, 2014 3:44 pm
I would avoid the 30" with the trigger axle at all costs. I used one and it is basically useless. It doesn't unlock and lock as quickly as you want it to. Def get one with the easy turn function,it is well worth the money.
djarchow


Joined: Jan 7, 2014
Points: 4

Re: Help with Ariens snowblower decision
Reply #6   Jan 7, 2014 4:27 pm
Shryp wrote:
Sounds like you are really wanting an upgrade. I can't help you with the decision of what to buy new, but if you tell us what is wrong with the old one we can help you fix it for a lot cheaper than the $300 the dealer was charging you. And, if you buy a new one you don't have to be in a hurry. Could keep it as a backup or sell it to recover some of your cost.


My blower is 30+ years old so it has more than paid for itself. The scraper bar got too low to the ground (my own fault) and wore through the center mounting bolts and the sheet metal. Then the auger caught the scraper bar chopped it in half and threw it out the front and ripped up the remaining sheet metal the scraper bolts to. So to fix it will mean cutting out the old sheet metal and welding in new, a new scraper bar, new skids etc. for about $300. The engine is also is also leaking oil and the friction plate needs replacing. So while it has served me well and is so overbuilt compared to the new blowers, I don't want to put $300+ in a snow blower only worth $300. Thanks and regards!
croftwny


Joined: Dec 9, 2011
Points: 11

Re: Help with Ariens snowblower decision
Reply #7   Jan 10, 2014 10:11 pm
I have a 2011 Platinum 30 and am very satisfied with its ability to handle the Lake Effect snow we get as well as the heavy EOD stuff. I too wanted to upgrade and that's when I bought the Ariens. The ATC works very well and easy to maneuver, so I definitely recommend it over a trigger. Regarding Briggs vs. LCT, I can't speak to which would last longer or provide the best performance. I can say the 342cc Briggs on mine provides more than enough power to handle and throw snow at an impressive distance. Good luck! Feel free to report back what you ended up with.
djarchow


Joined: Jan 7, 2014
Points: 4

Re: Help with Ariens snowblower decision
Reply #8   Jan 10, 2014 11:19 pm
Thanks for all the replies. I bought the 2013 Platinum 13 with the Briggs engine and the auto traction control. The dealer had both the 13 and 14 model. Ariens changed the wheelbase on the new one and it felt so much heavier and hard to manhandle than the 2013 and I am pretty strong. The 2014 weighs around 275 lbs compared to the 2013's 250 but the changes to the wheelbase made them feel much much different than the 25 lbs. I did like the larger tires and the AutoTurn on the new model but the handling was the big deciding factor for me. Again thanks to everyone for their feedback. Dennis
mkd55


Location: wisconsin
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Points: 155

Re: Help with Ariens snowblower decision
Reply #9   Jan 11, 2014 10:30 am
recently bought the ariens deluxe 28" 921030 with the ax 254 cc engine and the atc drive. the 28" model weighs 235 lbs just 6 lbs more than the 24" deluxe. the engine is rated at 12.5 ft lbs tq. and lct the engine supplier has it listed for 7.5 hp. i however used a formula to equate hp and it comes out to more like 8.5 hp. the formula is torque (12.5) times speed (3600 rpm) divided by 5252 = 8.568 hp. now does anybody definitively know the hp of the 254cc ax engine?
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hirschallan


If it aint broke don't fix it !!


Location: Northern Hills of NY
Joined: Aug 25, 2005
Points: 327

Re: Help with Ariens snowblower decision
Reply #10   Jan 11, 2014 10:28 pm
Don't know where you came up with that formula and I'm not saying it's wrong but I have always used this rule of thumb. I take the torque number say like in your case 12.5 and about 2/3 of that figure works out to 8.3hp. I don't remember where I got that info from but it gives me a quick ball park number.

jrtrebor


Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
Joined: Feb 10, 2010
Points: 539

Re: Help with Ariens snowblower decision
Reply #11   Jan 12, 2014 8:55 am
I usually just use Honda engines as a general guideline.
They have always rated their engines using CC and HP figures.
A GX240 is an 8hp 13.5 lb-ft (18.3 Nm) @ 2,500 rpm
A GX270 is a 9hp 14.1 lb-ft (19.1 Nm) @ 2,500 rpm
mkd55


Location: wisconsin
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Points: 155

Re: Help with Ariens snowblower decision
Reply #12   Jan 12, 2014 12:30 pm
i just googled horsepower formulas! http://www.iprocessmart.com/techsmart/formulas.htm
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