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bcjm


Location: Washing DC Area
Joined: Dec 2, 2011
Points: 25

generator engine wouldn't start
Original Message   Nov 12, 2013 11:02 am
This is a strange problem.  I walked away a year ago now try to work on it again.   I am running out of ideas.  I have an old Homelite generator using a B&S 243431 10HP engine.  It has good compression (75psi) and sparks but wouldn't start.  I have a new iginition coil as well.   I sprayed the starting fluid into the spark plug still no luck.  Not even trying.  I see sparks when having the spark plug sitting against the engine block. The only possibility is the sparks are "weak".  I can't really tell.  Is it possible?

What do you think?  What else I can try?

Thanks
Bob
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friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
Joined: Apr 12, 2008
Points: 600

Re: generator engine wouldn't start
Reply #9   Dec 28, 2013 11:53 pm
I have never seen a timing issue on a generator, you can't electriclly dump load on them quick enough to shear a key. If the flywheel has come loose, it may shear a key. Don't laugh, but i think it is the plug. ( if i had to guess) .. You may see spark now, but as pressure increases in the engine the resistance of the air fuel mix becomes greater,the plug may be fouledto a point that the resistance throught carbon on the insulator is less than the resistance throught gap. Thus not firing under compression load.. When we check aircraft spark plugs and clean them, they are we tested in a controlled pressure /windowed box for such a reason. Try swaping out the plug and let us know. Good luck, Friiy
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: generator engine wouldn't start
Reply #10   Dec 29, 2013 9:11 am
friiy wrote:
I have never seen a timing issue on a generator, you can't electriclly dump load on them quick enough to shear a key. If the flywheel has come loose, it may shear a key. Don't laugh, but i think it is the plug. ( if i had to guess) .. You may see spark now, but as pressure increases in the engine the resistance of the air fuel mix becomes greater,the plug may be fouledto a point that the resistance throught carbon on the insulator is less than the resistance throught gap. Thus not firing under compression load.. When we check aircraft spark plugs and clean them, they are we tested in a controlled pressure /windowed box for such a reason. Try swaping out the plug and let us know. Good luck, Friiy

In all of my years and experience with numerous small engines, I've only had two spark plugs fail.  Both sparked outside the cylinder but would not fire when installed.  A new plug was the fix.  If the OP is putting fuel directly into the cylinder via the spark plug hole, the engine should fire if there's spark.  If it fires and runs for a bit, the electrics are good.  If it doesn't fire, something is amiss in the ignition system.  I'd start with a new plug, then check the plug socket/lead and work backward into the coil/points/cdi, etc.  The low oil switch has confounded many a novice.  If the engine has one, ensure the oil level is up.  If oil level is good, disconnect the switch and try to fire the engine.
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