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mikiewest


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storing a portable generator
Original Message   Mar 12, 2012 8:57 pm
is it better to run the generator once a month or can it be stored until it is needed.I read it should be run monthly under load so the generator head stays magnetized.Is this true?
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RedOctobyr


Location: Lowell area, MA
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Re: storing a portable generator
Reply #23   Mar 21, 2012 9:40 pm
Agreed that the engine won't continue to "produce" heat after shutdown. That is, the hottest point in the engine (wherever that may be) will only get cooler. However, things near it may warm up.

I had an interesting example of the getting-hotter-after-removing-the-heat-source phenomenon a few years ago. We were injection molding some solid round b a l l s. Maybe 1.5" in diameter. The plastic material is injected at about 450-500F. The mold is cooled with roughly 80F water. A typical injection molded part is quite thin, relative to its surface area. These, however, were extremely thick, much more so than would be typical.

The plastic would be injected, and the parts would sit in the mold to cool, for quite some time (say a minute), so the outside would become firm enough that they could be ejected from the mold. During that time, the surface of the part is exposed to metal being cooled by 80F water. The center, however, is still very hot from the 450-500F plastic that you'd put in.

The interesting thing was that, when the parts were initially ejected from the mold, you could easily hold them in your hand. The outsides were warm, but OK. But wait 20-30 seconds, and you had to put them down, or you'd burn your hand. You'd removed them from the steel, which was drawing all the heat away. So as the remaining heat from the center (still at, say, 300F, to pick a number) continued to conduct outwards, the outer surface of the parts heated up a *lot*. This is in contrast to a typical-geometry injection molded part, which, to the touch, only gets cooler once it comes out of the mold.

Different context, but same phenomenon. No longer introducing any additional heat source (engine shut down), but remove some of the active cooling (airflow from flywheel), and the temperatures of some of the cooler areas will climb as things equalize.
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friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
Joined: Apr 12, 2008
Points: 600

Re: storing a portable generator
Reply #24   Mar 21, 2012 10:43 pm
Guys we could go round and round with this,    Say-we run a engine at full load for a few minutes, then to be nice guys, we remove the load to allow full airflow over our hot engine.....

Has anyone heard of the effects of "shock cooling".....  I have seen a lot of Franklin, Continental, Pratt and  Lycoming jugs replaced due to cracking from shock cooling...

More food for thought...

Friiy

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: storing a portable generator
Reply #25   Mar 22, 2012 9:38 am
I've hear aircraft guys around here refer to it as "super cooling" the engine.  Shock cooling is probably the same thing.  

Not particularly familiar with the phenomenon.  What's the cause and effect of shock cooling?   I assume it has something to do with shutting the engine down too soon after landing.


RedOct:

A similar but much simpler example of what you're talking about is taking a boiled egg out of the cooling water too soon.  Seems fine at first but is soon too hot to hold.  Simple matter of heat dissipation. 
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friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
Joined: Apr 12, 2008
Points: 600

Re: storing a portable generator
Reply #26   Mar 22, 2012 7:48 pm
Shock cooling refers to cooling the outside quicker than the inside,   the outside shinks and splits/cracks over the larger inside..

Friiy

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