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MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Original Message   Dec 2, 2011 7:14 pm
One guy from MSP area is selling his 15 year old HS621 (the guy from Wayzata MN who hates HomeDepot and GC engines) for $450.  Another one is selling his one year old HS520 for $400 with one year remaining on the warranty.  HS621 is a nice machine but is it really worth more than nearly new HS520?  Replacement parts for HS520 is about 50% of the cost of HS621. What do I recommend for a friend?  I think the HS621 from that guy is simply way too high (if it were as good as aa335 then it is a different story).  HS520 seems like an economical option.  What do you guys think?
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barne


Joined: Jan 14, 2012
Points: 3

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #50   Jan 14, 2012 9:13 pm
Never had the choice. I bought a used HS621 which will only run with choke almost full, then it just stalled today under a little snow load here in Detroit. Anybody know where to get a cheap knockoff carb for this machine? Also, to pull the carb, do I have to take the shroud/engine cover off the top? If so, any tips on easy shroud/engine removal? This machine seems pretty quiet to me, and looks pretty cool. Hope I can get it working well. Thanks for any help.
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #51   Jan 14, 2012 10:10 pm
@barne,

why don't you start a new thread asking for HS621 service diagrams.  there are a lot of people with HS621 and may have the service manual to share with you.

aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #52   Jan 15, 2012 4:06 pm
barne wrote:
Never had the choice. I bought a used HS621 which will only run with choke almost full, then it just stalled today under a little snow load here in Detroit. Anybody know where to get a cheap knockoff carb for this machine? Also, to pull the carb, do I have to take the shroud/engine cover off the top? If so, any tips on easy shroud/engine removal? This machine seems pretty quiet to me, and looks pretty cool. Hope I can get it working well. Thanks for any help.

I've heard people buying knock offs GX160 engines but put on genuine Honda carburetor.  You've got the real GX engine, why put on a knockoff carb???  These knockoff carbs can be found on Ebay.

Anyways, the carb is accessible from the bottom without removing the cover.  I would start looking at cleaning jets, checking governor linkage/springs.  I would work on the existing carb before giving up on it.
barne


Joined: Jan 14, 2012
Points: 3

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #53   Jan 16, 2012 1:03 am
Thanks a lot, aa335. I guess I WILL try to clean up the carb I have. But was tempted to just slap on a knockoff carb after reading somewhere here on Abbysguide about a guy who had trouble cleaning his HS621 carb, then found a $12 knockoff carb which worked great. Here's my plan. (Never messed with a carb before so could be interesting.) Will drain the fuel, then will tip machine forward, leaning up onto its chute to see if I can wrench out the carb from the bottom (not real confident about making this step work). If that works, I'll go at things with some Gumout, poking a thin wire through various carb passages if possible, then slap it all back together and hope to run without choke full on. If that doesn't improve things, I might try higher octane fuel. Might be back on here in a day or so asking where to buy new carb gaskets. If still running on full choke, I might ask for any direct pointer to a decent priced knockoff carb. Don't really feel like spending the $62 for OEM if an approx. $12 knockoff will get me running strong. Thanks again, aa35!
RedOctobyr


Location: Lowell area, MA
Joined: Nov 5, 2011
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Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #54   Jan 16, 2012 6:31 am
For what it's worth, I doubt that high-octane gas would make any kind of meaningful difference.

Also, for carb gaskets, I bought a rebuild kit for my weedwhacker over the summer. I was a bit surprised when it did not include a new gasket for between the carb and the engine. That one had ripped during disassembly, too. It was a thick-paper type of gasket. So I took it to an auto parts store and bought a roll of the same type of gasket material, for about $5. I traced out the old gasket and cut a replacement out of the new roll, it worked great.

I did the same thing recently for the carb on another engine, using the same roll of material. No problems. You can probably buy the exact replacement gasket you need, but if you don't want to wait, or to pay that much, you can probably make your own.
barne


Joined: Jan 14, 2012
Points: 3

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #55   Jan 16, 2012 10:23 pm
Great tip, RedOctobyr! If mine rips, I'll head to Ralph's for some gasket material.
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