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allenm


Joined: Dec 29, 2010
Points: 8

Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Original Message   Dec 29, 2010 3:40 pm
Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
 
I purchased two of these snow blowers (one for me, and one for my Mom).  The other model I was considering was the Honda HS520AS. The deal breaker was the Quick Shoot control. I cannot emphasize enough how much you will love this.  Adds to making snow blowing easy and fun!
 
When you first look at the unit it looks big for 1 stage snow blower.  However, after using it a time or two, it feels light and maneuvers very easily. My Mom is 71 and has no problem with it at all.
 
If you have under 1 inch of snow, don't expect it to throw very far.  If you have 2-10 inches, it will throw the snow 35 feet as Toro claims. It's been a great snow blower.  I highly recommend the product. 
 
My question for anyone......In the past few weeks, I've been reading more and more people that own the Toro 421Q and 421QE that have experienced gas leaking problem.  Similar to the Power Clear 180 recall back in June of 2010.  Curious to know if anyone has experienced this with their Toro 421Q or 421QE snow blower????
 
I purchased my snow blower online from Home Depot.  I received it double boxed.  There was an outside box (separated from the manufactures box) to handle shipping better.  Very professionally shipped and boxed from Home Depot (as it should be)!
 
My Mom was not so lucky.  She ordered hers through Snow Blowers Direct.  When she received it, the snow blower was falling out of the box and was damaged (broken shoot).  We contact Snow Blowers Direct.  They sent her another shoot, but here's the part that put my Mom in tears......they sent it in 14 pieces for her to assemble. Adding insult to injury, they did not send all the pieces for it to work.  Snow Blowers Direct sent her 1 spring, as the unit requires 2. Our local Toro dealer had to order the second spring. Our local Toro dealer put it together for $30.  This entire problem could have been avoided if the product was packaged accordingly.  One cannot help but read the numerous complaints where several people have receive damaged product from Snow Blowers Direct.
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CharlesW


Joined: Jan 9, 2011
Points: 76

Re: Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Reply #11   Jan 9, 2011 10:13 pm
For those of you that are experiencing a safety related problem, (and a gas leak certainly qualifies), here's some CPSC information.

To report a dangerous product or a product-related injury, call CPSC’s Hotline at (800) 638-2772, teletypewriter at (800) 638-8270, or visit www.cpsc.gov/talk.html. Consumers can obtain this press release and recall information at www.cpsc.gov.

If the CPSC gets enough complaints, Toro will be required to correct the problem.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Reply #12   Jan 10, 2011 12:02 am
CharlesW wrote:
Just registered to post a link to another reference to a possible Toro 421 fuel leak, but I don't seem to be able to do that.
Here's the link,but you will need to copy and paste to access it.


Where's the link?  Looks like the moderator removed it.  Is it a taboo to post link to another forum?
alty


Joined: Nov 1, 2010
Points: 38

Re: Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Reply #13   Jan 10, 2011 12:32 am
Here's what the link said -  " 421 QE leaking fuel
ran my snowblower this evening parked it in the garage afterwards and then about an hour later notice a gas smell in the house. Went to the garage and gas had seemed to drain from the tank? Anyone else have this issue? not sure why but pulled starter and the cord was locked (now believe it was just frozen) so was concerned I had other issues. Opened the oiler filler and oil was pouring out so quickly put the dip stick back in. What the **** is going on? Dealer put in the oil and checked everything when I bought it late last winter. The way the oil was pouring out I can't figure out how it was even possible to get that much oil in. thoughts? "
I have not heard of a problem with the Toro 421QE and leaking fuel before -  Locin fixed the Toro180 fuel problem from last year, and logically
would think they would not be seen in any of their other motors.
CharlesW


Joined: Jan 9, 2011
Points: 76

Re: Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Reply #14   Jan 10, 2011 8:38 am
aa335 wrote:
Where's the link?  Looks like the moderator removed it.  Is it a taboo to post link to another forum?
Evidently the link was removed by a moderator.
I did try to find any reference to what links could or could not be posted before I posted and didn't find where posting a link to another forum was prohibited.
Obviously it is.
No big deal, but a simple PM or notation as to why it was removed would have been nice.
I think it is called common courtesy.
That said, I will say "So Long" since I will probably be removed anyway.
rwkoch


Joined: Jan 10, 2011
Points: 1

Re: Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Reply #15   Jan 10, 2011 2:16 pm
You just described my problem exactly.  Oil sump was full of fuel so off to the dealer it went.  Parts are on backorder and it will probably cost me because they thought that the carb was dirty due to old fuel.  I have called Toro and they don't have a recall on this model but probably should have based on the number of people having this same problem of leaking fuel.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Reply #16   Jan 10, 2011 2:23 pm
To people that have fuel leak on the 421q, what is the first 4 numbers of the unit serial number ?
jackrabbit000


Joined: Jan 10, 2011
Points: 15

Re: Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Reply #17   Jan 10, 2011 7:36 pm
Is fuel leakage still a problem or has Toro addressed the problem on the 2010/11 421QE's?
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Reply #18   Jan 11, 2011 12:57 am
jackrabbit000 wrote:
Is fuel leakage still a problem or has Toro addressed the problem on the 2010/11 421QE's?

I'm not sure if these problems are isolated or epidemic.  The 421Q model has been out 3 years.  1 year with Tecumseh engine, 2 years with the Loncin engine.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Reply #19   Jan 11, 2011 1:07 am
CharlesW wrote:
Evidently the link was removed by a moderator.
I did try to find any reference to what links could or could not be posted before I posted and didn't find where posting a link to another forum was prohibited.
Obviously it is.
No big deal, but a simple PM or notation as to why it was removed would have been nice.
I think it is called common courtesy.
That said, I will say "So Long" since I will probably be removed anyway.

Don't worry, you're not a troublemaker.

I've read the Terms of Use and the policy for external link is loosely worded.

We've got characters here who's done worse and they are still here. 
CharlesW


Joined: Jan 9, 2011
Points: 76

Re: Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Reply #20   Jan 11, 2011 1:18 am
Actually, I have no problem with the link being removed.
What I didn't care for was the fact it was removed with no comment as to why.
Obviously, they don't have to explain their actions to me, but common courtesy would have been to either post or PM me why the link was removed.
I'm not really sure I care to be part of a forum where they practice censorship under the guise of moderation.

And yeah, I know how the game is played.
I have been both an administrator and a moderator of a forum.
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