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Clay


Location: Wis
Joined: Dec 3, 2008
Points: 111

2 snow throwers, ONE has to be returned?
Original Message   Dec 28, 2008 2:43 pm
Through a strange series of events and getting upset with Sears service department I have two snow throwers in the garage.  I'm not going to rehash all the issues, but the last service call Sears said it would take two weeks before they even came out and I bought another machine and planned on taking back the Craftsman unit.  Now that I have both units in the garage I am having a hard time making a decision.  Yes, the Craftsman 14.5 needs service, but most units after they get running usually don't need service all that often.  The other unit is an Ariens 1130 DLE.  Both machines are 30" wide and roughly have an 11 hp engine.   One comment is that the Ariens units are suppose to be so heavily made, but the truth is that this Home Depot sold machine is almost 50 pounds lighter than the Craftsman unit and you can see this is the thickness of the sheet metal.  I have to return the Sears unit by the 30th if I decide to take it back.  I tried to be methodical this morning and I put together this chart.  Would appreciate your comments,  The prices listed include a 5 year warranty that I bought from Sears on the 14.5, but the prices don't include taxes on either unit.

Rick

Craftsman 14.5                 Ariens 1130 DLE

Cost:           $1188         w/ 5 year warranty                 $1199 w/ 3 year warranty                

Service:       One to two weeks                                    2 to 3 days 

Engine:       B&S Snow 305 cc OHV                           Tecumseh L 358 cc, bankrupt

Housing Metal               .10                                           .075

Chute Metal                   .085                                         .050

Weight                           293                                          245

Tires                              16 X 6.5                                   15 X 5

Intake height                    23”                                          21”

Width                              30”                                          30”

Chute rotation               180 degrees                             200 degrees

Steering                         Power steering                         Interlock control

                                                                                      Auto traction control

Impeller                              12”                                          14”

Auger                                 12”                                           14”

Drift cutters                      Standard                                  $30 option

Heavy Extension Cord      Standard                                  $16 option

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pvrp


Joined: Nov 14, 2008
Points: 151

Re: 2 snow throwers, ONE has to be returned?
Reply #5   Dec 28, 2008 8:20 pm
borat wrote:
No zerks on the Ariens auger shaft?  That's unacceptable to me.   

Today I finally got to play again with my new Ariens 9526DLE (I'll post about that in my thread on the subject)
and figured I'd grease the augers first, since I hadn't gotten around to it last time.  I have two zerks per side.

First side went ok, though I still have trouble getting my grease gun off the zerks (new gun this time).  Doing
the first zerk on the other side, when I pried the gun off the zerk came with it.  The %*&? things are press fit,
no threads !  And they don't have the little spring loaded ball to seal the hole either.  I tapped it back in with
a plastic hammer and it seems ok for now. ..

Paul
Paul7


Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Points: 452

Re: 2 snow throwers, ONE has to be returned?
Reply #6   Dec 29, 2008 7:35 pm
It's interesting that the current Ariens model 1130DLE is so much lighter than previous models of similar power and capacity.  I would consider my 2005-6 Ariens 11528 Deluxe model to be an equivalent model and it weighs 289lbs compared to 245lbs for the new 1130DLE Deluxe model. 

I've always equated weight with quality but that may not be the case here.  Still I have to wonder what happened to the missing 44lbs of snowblower between the two machines.
Clay


Location: Wis
Joined: Dec 3, 2008
Points: 111

Re: 2 snow throwers, ONE has to be returned?
Reply #7   Dec 30, 2008 12:59 pm
The 11528 is considered a "Pro" model in the Ariens line and costs more, the 1130 DLE is their "Deluxe" model which is a step down from the pro model.  Even so I returned the Craftsman unit last night and I hope that I made the right decision in the long run.  So far I am still not convinced one was far superior.  Guess what, I have a 30 day return policy on the Ariens too, so if this doesn't work for me it will have to go back also.  No matter what machine you have people will have some problems with anything mechanical.  I see Honda units with problems and Simplicity units with some problems too.  Then again my MTD style generic small two stage ran 21 years and still works.  I really didn't need a new unit, just WANTED a bigger one.

Rick

pvrp


Joined: Nov 14, 2008
Points: 151

Re: 2 snow throwers, ONE has to be returned?
Reply #8   Dec 30, 2008 2:13 pm
Clay wrote:
 Even so I returned the Craftsman unit last night and I hope that I made the right decision in the long run. 

I'm sure you'll be happy with the Ariens.  I suggest you read the owner's manual and go through all the setup and
adjustments yourself so you'll know they've been done properly and you'll know what to do next time around.  You
might also want to do a bit of extra lubrification and rustproofing to help the machine last many years. Look up posts
by goofienewfie in this forum as he has the same machine and described in detail what he did to his.

Make sure you change the oil after two hours.

Paul
Paul7


Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Points: 452

Re: 2 snow throwers, ONE has to be returned?
Reply #9   Dec 30, 2008 2:20 pm
The model I have is an Ariens 11528 LE.  It was from Arien's deluxe line a few years ago.  The Pro 11528 DLE was available then as well and the main difference was that the Pro model had a differential.  Mine has the remote wheel lock/unlock lever on the handlebar.  I believe that your newer model 1130DLE, while listed as part of Ariens Deluxe line, does in fact come with a true differential.

I figure that as far as power and capacity go they are similar machines and I'd be interested to learn why mine weighs 44 pounds more than yours.

I think that you'll be happy with your Ariens.  I had a 5hp Ariens for twenty years and had no major problems.  Of course that was a very featureless machine so not a whole lot to break.  With my new one I had problems from the get go with the Tecumseh OHV engine.  Might have been a lemon from Tecumseh but yours has the L Head which may be a more reliable engine.
Snowbound


Joined: Feb 17, 2006
Points: 76

Re: 2 snow throwers, ONE has to be returned?
Reply #10   Dec 31, 2008 11:29 pm
Clay:  Your former Sears machine (14.50 torque Model# 1450, 305cc ) is rated somewhere between 9 & 11 horsepower.  For some marketing reason, Sears does not advertise the hp on your former model.  Your machine replaced the Craftsman 11.5 horsepower model #917.881150 which is 342cc (20.85 cubic inch).  This B & S engine is actually rated at up to 13 horsepower.  I have one and had a horrific time with Sears Service last year!  Sears extended my "extended warranty" for an additional year at no charge as a good will gesture.  My machine now runs extremely well, is highly powerful and starts on the first pull.  (Sounds like a Pratt & Whitney radial) I also have the Classic Cab attached.  Great combination!
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