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db_9


Joined: Dec 9, 2005
Points: 13

Is the service man telling a lie...
Original Message   Jan 5, 2006 1:38 pm
OK. I had trouble with my 1 year old Ariens 8526LE throwing snow 3 weeks ago. I did everything in the manual to try and fix it. When I took the casing off to look at the belts I noticed the belt that controls the auger was shredded. So I took it to the dealer I bought it from. It took him 3 weeks and 3 phone calls from me. He told me it is ready and that a rock was caught in the impeller. Well before I brought it to him I made sure the auger was spinning, which it was. I also looked down the shoot to see if the impeller was spinning, and it was. So if there was a rock caught in the impellar it wouldn't spin, right? Also could this cause the belt to shred? I am going there this Saturday to pick it up and let him have a piece of my mind. I also want to make sure it isn't a bigger problem, like pulleys out of line causing the belt to shred. I still have 2 years on the warranty and want to make sure this isn't a lemon.
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TheKneebiter


Joined: Oct 22, 2004
Points: 233

Re: Is the service man telling a lie...
Reply #6   Jan 5, 2006 10:14 pm
where in mass are you ? what was the name of the shop ?

BBgarage


Joined: Dec 6, 2005
Points: 98

Re: Is the service man telling a lie...
Reply #7   Jan 5, 2006 11:16 pm
Is it possible the line from the clutch was a little loose, so that it was never engaging fully causing it to wear out quicker?
spottedpony


Joined: Aug 23, 2004
Points: 301

Re: Is the service man telling a lie...
Reply #8   Jan 5, 2006 11:23 pm
just goes to show, no matter what the product, dealer purchase doesnt always mean good service, although in the dealers defense, im sure this time of year he is busy, and if he does like i do in my business, excluding emergencies, (and as reputable dealers, of all kinds do, no matter the locale) service is usually a first come first served basis. so if work is backlogged, its going to take a while. Add to that warranty issues arnt a cash crop so to speak, & warranty work doesnt pay the dealer well, in many cases they're going to lean towards cash sales first.
toolpig


Joined: Nov 12, 2005
Points: 53

Re: Is the service man telling a lie...
Reply #9   Jan 6, 2006 4:45 am
The exact same thing happened to me and my new Ariens 11528LE  on the first heavy snowfall of this year.  My OPE told me it was because the idler got out of line with the sheaves.  It only took him 1 hour to pick it up , fix it and return it.

Maybe your dealer is feeding you a line of Bull in order to get out of a warranty claim.     

Ariens 11528 snowthrower, Craftsman 18hp lawn tractor, Craftsman 5hp lawn mower, Craftsman 4.25hp pressure washer, Stihl BG55 leaf blower and vac, Stihl SH26 string trimmer, Husqvarna 365 special Chainsaw, Husqvarna 254XP chainsaw.
nor_easter


Joined: Dec 12, 2005
Points: 8

Re: Is the service man telling a lie...
Reply #10   Jan 6, 2006 7:06 am
Sounds like you have the same dealer as me. I bought an Ariens 926 this year and noticed that it was leaking gas out the carb. After I cleaned the bowl, made sure the float worked and the carb was still leaking gas I gave him a call. He said he couldn't get to it in a week; and it's been three and a half weeks since then with no snowblower. I should have known he was a scoundrel when he charged me $25 to deliver the thing six miles when I bought it. Oh, your dealer doesn't happen to be on Rt. 62 in Acton does he...........
db_9


Joined: Dec 9, 2005
Points: 13

Re: Is the service man telling a lie...
Reply #11   Jan 6, 2006 9:30 am
I live out by Leominster and purchased the snowblower at a dealer on Central St/Rt 12 in Leominster.

1. BBGarage: The line from the clutch was a little loose, but would this cause a belt to wear out after 1 years use? I tightened it like the manual said after the problem started, but it was too late by then as the belt was junk.

2. Spottedpony: I hear what you are saying about it being a busy time of year. But I called him the week of Xmas and he told me it should be ready by Xmas and he would call when it was ready. Then I called the Thursday after Xmas and he said it was in the shop and should be ready the next day and he would call when it was ready. I called yesterday and he gave the line about the stone in the impellar and that it was ready and I could come pick it up. Well where the hell was the phone call !!!!!! I just felt like I was getting the run around from day one.

3. Toolpig: I suspect that something like this is happening with my machine. Is there any way I can easily find out if the idler is out of line with the sheaves? Also did your belt stop working immediatley? I ran my machine all last winter without  a problem, or at least it seemed that way.

Also when I first dropped it off he told me that belts were not covered under the warranty. Well I went back and looked at the warranty and here is what it states:

"Normal maintenance items including, but not limited to, belts, idlers, cables, friction wheels, tires, wheels, and electrical components are warranted for a two year period from the date of purchase unless a shorter period would apply based on how the product is used, then the shorter period will apply. "

So I am going to ask him

1. Did you actually find a stone stuck in the impellar, or is this just your theory? If it is just his theory then I believe the belt should be covered under warranty because he has not proven that this is actually the cause. It is just a theory. I am going to ask how he knows something else is not wrong?

2. If he did find a stone in the impellar I am going to ask "So that means the impellar was not moving at all?". If he says "yes" then I know he is a liar because as I said above, before I took the machine to the shop I made sure the auger and impellar were spinning.

Do you guys have any other questions you can think of I should ask? I really appreciate your responses.

TheKneebiter


Joined: Oct 22, 2004
Points: 233

Re: Is the service man telling a lie...
Reply #12   Jan 6, 2006 10:11 am
all you needed to do was look at the idler and eyeball it and you can see if it is aligned with the pully. amay 1128dle was off just a tad and i need to move my pully ouy a spec and it is now perfect. these machines are pretty simple to work on if youe are a little handy and take your time. i email ariend directly and told them about my pully being off a spec and that i was worried about premature belt wear now and they sent me new belt at no cost.  i recomend getting to know your machine or you might be in for something like this from time to time.

TheKneebiter


Joined: Oct 22, 2004
Points: 233

Re: Is the service man telling a lie...
Reply #13   Jan 6, 2006 10:13 am
WOW look at all my type o's  This forum really needs an EDIT button !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   I think you will understand my post. if not just ask and i will retype . Just a bit slower next time

toolpig


Joined: Nov 12, 2005
Points: 53

Re: Is the service man telling a lie...
Reply #14   Jan 6, 2006 1:25 pm
As kneebiter said you should be able to eyeball the idler and make sure it's in line with the sheaves. My machine was brand new and ran OK for the first two snowfalls I'd used it.   It started  acting up on a heavy 3 foot snowfall. This was the third time I'd used it, and yes it was a sudden problem.  My OPE dealer had no problem lining up the idler and throwing a new belt on my machine all under warranty.

I can tell you if your impeller was turning when you took it in , it was no rock jam that caused your problem. Besides , you would have heard the belts roaring when the jam occurred.   Make sure before you use your machine again that the idler is aligned, otherwise you may have the same belt fraying trouble after a few uses.

By the way, how many times did you use your machine, and how heavy was the snow  before all these troubles occurred.

Ariens 11528 snowthrower, Craftsman 18hp lawn tractor, Craftsman 5hp lawn mower, Craftsman 4.25hp pressure washer, Stihl BG55 leaf blower and vac, Stihl SH26 string trimmer, Husqvarna 365 special Chainsaw, Husqvarna 254XP chainsaw.
BBgarage


Joined: Dec 6, 2005
Points: 98

Re: Is the service man telling a lie...
Reply #15   Jan 6, 2006 5:19 pm
Well there is only a very short distance the clutch line needs to be pulled to get it into full engagement. However, if yours had been just loose enough it could have led to faster wear.

I prime until I see gas drip from the carb. It only leaks after you turn it off, so I always shut off the fuel line to solve the problem when not in use.
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