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Lucky1


Joined: Jan 2, 2008
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Good Housekeeping Sept
Original Message   Aug 17, 2010 2:26 pm
Sept Issue addresses Allergies and Vacuums..... Miele S7 Gets top rating for Upright. Electrolux Oxygen tops for Canister. (Well it won't help canister sales for me but I'll stock up on hoses, PH necks, wands and such for repairs). Hoover canister is second (wait till people realize if they burn out a PH motor they are no longer available. Strange as the machine is barely a 2 years old model.)
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iMacDaddy


Electrolux UltraOne EL7070, Bissell BigGreen Deep Cleaning Machine

Joined: Oct 30, 2007
Points: 110

Re: Good Housekeeping Sept
Reply #2   Aug 17, 2010 8:31 pm
I wonder if they tested the Oxygen3 as well..?
Actionvac


Joined: Oct 22, 2008
Points: 80

Re: Good Housekeeping Sept
Reply #3   Aug 18, 2010 9:46 am
Both the Miele cans and S7 get a 0 reading on a particle scanner I have
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Good Housekeeping Sept
Reply #4   Aug 18, 2010 11:29 am
Actionvac wrote:
Both the Miele cans and S7 get a 0 reading on a particle scanner I have

Test on the Sebo Felix and see what happens : )
Actionvac


Joined: Oct 22, 2008
Points: 80

Re: Good Housekeeping Sept
Reply #5   Aug 18, 2010 12:42 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
Test on the Sebo Felix and see what happens : )


Like all cloth bagged uprights it will have a fairly high reading but not as high as most baggless barring Dyson, and I do not sell Sebo as hepa, I tried it as I turned it on 2 million then about 1 million  which sounds terrible but some bagless IE Bissell and others initially 30-40 million particles
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vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
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Re: Good Housekeeping Sept
Reply #6   Aug 18, 2010 7:57 pm
Actionvac wrote:
Like all cloth bagged uprights it will have a fairly high reading but not as high as most baggless barring Dyson, and I do not sell Sebo as hepa, I tried it as I turned it on 2 million then about 1 million  which sounds terrible but some bagless IE Bissell and others initially 30-40 million particles

MM I'm puzzled. The Sebo Felix is not a cloth bagged, not in the traditional sense. It has a cloth filter wraparound its plastic body which acts as the exhaust filter. Therefore any particle meter should be put at the front where the bottom vents are located (you can't see it but you can feel through the cloth for those vents).
Actionvac


Joined: Oct 22, 2008
Points: 80

Re: Good Housekeeping Sept
Reply #7   Aug 19, 2010 12:11 pm
I mean no hepa exhaust filter like a Miele, just the paper bag ans some material
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Good Housekeeping Sept
Reply #8   Aug 19, 2010 1:13 pm
Actionvac wrote:
I mean no hepa exhaust filter like a Miele, just the paper bag ans some material



The Sebo Felix Premium scored "excellent" for emissions re CR tests, just the same as Miele and a good number of other cleaners.

Venson

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Good Housekeeping Sept
Reply #9   Aug 19, 2010 1:15 pm
Yep Venson I know that but Ive often wondered if these kind of particle machines tell a different story against organisations.
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Good Housekeeping Sept
Reply #10   Aug 19, 2010 5:55 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
Yep Venson I know that but Ive often wondered if these kind of particle machines tell a different story against organisations.



Hi vacmanuk,

Primarily, particle counters greatest value appears to be for promoting vacuum sales.  If there's a difference of merely a micron being caught or lost the machine that didn't let it get by will be the one someone will be told he or she just has to have.  However, our lives are really not threatened by inadequacies that small.  And whether or not the vacuum captures every iota of what it sucks in influences merely one aspect of household air quality. 

A particle counter would serve best if taken room to room thoughout a household to get a picture of its overall air quality.  With that kind of enlightenment people could think on overall ways to lessen dissatisfying particulate counts. There's only so much a vacuum cleaner or even the strongest disinfectant can do. 

Venson

Actionvac


Joined: Oct 22, 2008
Points: 80

Re: Good Housekeeping Sept
Reply #11   Aug 20, 2010 10:00 am
The counter does sell vacuums, specificly Miele vacuums because the hepa is sealed and at the end of the air flo, now it doesn't tell you whats in the dirt because like the Sebo x4 will get a high reading of probably carbon dust from the motor as opposed to say a Bissell supposed hepa that gets a horrendous reading which I'm sure is your houshold dust because you can see it pouring out, in my store when I walk in with my IQ air running all night the air is excellent, below 100,000 ppm but if I turn on just about any bagless (except Dyson) the reading around the room will jump into the millions, a Miele Hepa vacuum and IQ air combo will reduce allergens in any home significantly, any vac without a hepa filter at the final exhust will range from 2-3 million particles
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