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Re: Any new snowblowers out for 2012
#1   Sep 27, 2011 1:15 pm
If Briggs did indeed mfr the new Toro engine, and it is being branded as Toro opposed to Briggs, my guess is that  the quality standard/quality requirement for the mfr of the engine is lower (cheaper components, more defects allowable per X number of engines, etc) than the Briggs quality level, so rather than potentially tarnish the Briggs name with a sub-standard engine, they agreed to make this engine specifically for Toro with the Toro label. In the end, Toro probably decided that the new "Toro" engine is still a significant upgrade over the competition (MTD chinese engines), that it is a small risk for them and a potential huge upside in that they can sell the snowblower for a more competitve price at the big box stores thereby increasing market share. A win- win for everyone except the guy who can't start his Toro in the middle of a blizzard. And to add to that, and maybe this is a bit of a stretch, BUT, realizing that  their snowblowers are averaging a lifespan of 16yrs and MTD is 8yrs (arbitrary numbers), they wouldnt mind dropping the lifespan to around 10-12 in order to sell more "replacement" machines to the Toro faithful.
Re: Any new snowblowers out for 2012
#2   Sep 27, 2011 12:39 am
If you go to the toro website and search model numbers, they show a few new models for 2012 that have a "Toro" engine. This includes the 926 OXE (38661). When you look up the warranty info for the model, it list Briggs for the warranty coverage. Not sure what to make of it. It doesnt say R*Tek anywhere. But it says Toro for the engine opposed to the 726 and 826 which say Briggs.  Does anyone have a theory on this? Why would they stop listing briggs as the mfr?
Re: Any new snowblowers out for 2012
#3   Sep 25, 2011 11:28 pm
it states 4 cycle R*Tek and is consitent with a rumor I heard through a Toro dealer last week. He said that his shipments of the 726 and 826 will no longer have the briggs, but a toro labeled engine from china. he didnt know any other details and did not state R*tek, but now after finding the 926 oxe,  it seems obvious that something is going on with the new Toro's. I havent seen any official announcement from Toro or briggs. I am very curious. wondering if toro finally caved to the big box stores and is trying to compete with the price point of the lower quality machines (MTD).
Re: Any new snowblowers out for 2012
#4   Sep 25, 2011 11:05 pm
snowblowers direct
Re: Two stage snowblower advice - Looking to buy
#5   Sep 25, 2011 8:47 pm
Toro 828 oxe
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