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New_Yorker


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Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: Nov 26, 2010
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*#@%# ING GAS CAN SPOUTS ! What Can We Do ?
Original Message   Nov 29, 2010 9:37 am
OK, the new improved Government mandated no spill venting spouts on all the new gas cans are useless, so where do we go now ?   We need spouts that put the gasoline in the gas tank and don't spill it all over you, the ground, the lawn mower-snow blower- leaf blower-chainsaw-tiller-lawn tractor etc., etc. the way these useless, impossible to use new government 8#@%#ING POS spouts do.  The Gas can needs a cap to seal them properly, and a flexible spout long enough to get into the car if needed, and I don't care about the venting because the VOC emissions from all the spilled gas is about 100 times worse than the old usable gas cans of yesteryear. Can we buy them in Canada ?  Mexico ?  Someplace that isn't run by idiots ?  Ideas ? ? ?
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Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: *#@%# ING GAS CAN SPOUTS ! What Can We Do ?
Reply #14   Dec 1, 2010 10:18 pm
I have the first one in that pic and I really hate it. I will probably buy a 1 gallon as it's easier to fill up the Toro with. Then get my wife to use 2 hands to @%$&^# with the vented cap while I pour it into the 1 gallon size every few storms. The EPA really blew it with these new gas cans.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
daswede


Location: Merrimac Valley-Mass.
Joined: Feb 23, 2008
Points: 37

Re: *#@%# ING GAS CAN SPOUTS ! What Can We Do ?
Reply #15   Dec 2, 2010 8:59 am
I found those fancy gas tanks with the squeeze ,pull,rotate,etc. pouring spouts to be more of a problem than they are worth. Especially,when they freeze in cold weather.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: *#@%# ING GAS CAN SPOUTS ! What Can We Do ?
Reply #16   Dec 2, 2010 10:17 am
Shryp wrote:
I have a 5 gallon one of this style that works pretty good for the lawnmower.  This is the one I usually use for OPE now as it seems pretty usable.




This is the worse gas can I've ever bought, made by B***z.  Awful lever/valve design.  Holding a 5 gallon gas can that weights 40 pounds while trying to activate a 1/4" x 1/8" lever with one of your available fingers so you can squeeze the lever is an exercise in frustration.  They work on lighter 1 gallon cans, but not 5 gallons.  I had mine popped off after 6 months of use.  And they want $10 for replacement, $2 worth of plastics molded overseas.  I am never buying any products made by this company ever again.  Pure junk.

These non-vented gas cans are a tree hugger's dream, but an absolute flop when it comes to usability, ergonomic, and practicality.  They balloon in the summer and implode in the winter.  I have to frequently open the gas cap to equalize the pressure.  Now all my gas cans have taken a set being imploded since the weather is cold.

This is what happens when we let one state of the union in the west coast that's about to slide into the Pacific Ocean determines what's best for the rest of the country.  Crappy gas, gas cans that don't work, and finicky carburetors.  Can't wait until they start putting catalytic converters on string trimmers.
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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: *#@%# ING GAS CAN SPOUTS ! What Can We Do ?
Reply #17   Dec 2, 2010 10:56 am
alty wrote:
LOL   I thought I was the only one that thought that way about those ridiculous gas cans in most all of the stores around.

Has anyone tried these no-spill gas containers? 

http://www.nospill.com/index.php


I think I have the 2.5 gallon No-Spill can and so far, this is one of the better ones.  I like the simple one button press to start the flow.  I also like the spout being external so no need to take a wet spout of the gas can and mount it on the outside to pour.
JGtravelor


Joined: Jan 14, 2011
Points: 13

Re: *#@%# ING GAS CAN SPOUTS ! What Can We Do ?
Reply #18   Jan 14, 2011 4:55 pm
Looks like a novel idea with the thumb buttom. I see they didn't add any static warning labels for those blowing themselves up on cold, dry days, sliding the can across the rug of their trunk or on plastic truck bed liners to build up a nice charge to shoot to the grounded gas nozzle.

For small two gallon cans a simple funnel will work to get cas into a car. For filling a snow blower or lawnmower I don't see what the problem is unless there are different types. I attached a link for a good one that clearly shows how it is used.

They sell the long flexible tip funnels usuallly used to reach the car's automatic transmission filler pipe at Pep Boys, Autozone or the like.

For the heavy 5 galllon gas can, I went to Grainger and bought the bulb type syphon tube. I got this so if I wasn't home and my wife needed to fill the generator she wouldn't have to pick up heavy  gas can and make a mess and cause a fire.

 Just place the gas can on a plastic milk crate as a stand to help with the syphon.

Put the fill line in the gas tank. Squeese the bulb a couple times and the gas runs through the clear line into the tank with no mess. To stop the flow twist open orange cap that lets the air in to stop the suction.

With this setup you don't have to touch anything with gas on it.

Paul7


Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Points: 452

Re: *#@%# ING GAS CAN SPOUTS ! What Can We Do ?
Reply #19   Jan 14, 2011 5:52 pm
They are starting to make everything with the "no spill" spout so this may not hold true.  The last time I was at Lowes to buy a plastic gas can I cringed when I saw they all had the "enviro" spout.  Then I noticed that the plastic Kerosene cans had a plain normal spout so that's what I bought.  It was made by the same manufacturer as the gas one and was identical in every way except the spout and it was blue instead of red.
lseap107


Location: Wisconsin
Joined: Jan 8, 2011
Points: 23

Re: *#@%# ING GAS CAN SPOUTS ! What Can We Do ?
Reply #20   Jan 14, 2011 6:54 pm
I have found this type of sput to work very effectivly.  You turn the gas can over and just push the button and the gas comes out.  Release the button to stop the flow.  They sell them on amzon with the can or just the spout.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W9JN4S/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B000W9LRQK&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=04DFQ31W809BTFFYH5NH

No-Spill 1450 5-Gallon Poly Gas Can (CARB Compliant)

krislu


Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: Dec 27, 2004
Points: 148

Re: *#@%# ING GAS CAN SPOUTS ! What Can We Do ?
Reply #21   Jan 14, 2011 7:16 pm
This was my answer. It is not cheap but I am very satified. - Kris

Justrite

http://www.labsafety.com/JUSTRITE-UNO-Type-II-Safety-Cans_24552552/

           
billywhiskers


Joined: Dec 31, 2010
Points: 14

Re: *#@%# ING GAS CAN SPOUTS ! What Can We Do ?
Reply #22   Jan 14, 2011 7:27 pm
Here in Quebec it is illegal for a gasoline seller to fill anything but an approved container. People used to fill most anything with a screw cap at one time. Now all of the approved containers have a ' UL '  ( Underwriters Laboratories ) stamp but there is still what I see as a major oversight. The container itself is tested and approved but obviously the caps, spouts and seals are not. All of the plastic gas contianers I've seen in recent years use a rubber 'O' -Ring as a gasket to fit between the spout and the container. They don't form a tight seal and the gas nearly always spills all over the place when you tip the can. The old system used a flat rubber washer which did form a leak-safe seal. I've looked for these large rubber washers unsuccessfully for a long time and even went as far as to fashion a couple out of the right thickness rubber I found laying around my shed.

A couple of years ago I bought two spring loaded replacment spouts. They have a bit different gaskets...not 'O' Rings but rather molded rubber gaskets which are finicky to get seated on the spout bases but tight when on there properly. I find these spouts quite good, The gas can be tuerned upside down and the gas only starts to come out when downward pesssure is exerted on the tip of the spout. I forget who makes them though.

aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: *#@%# ING GAS CAN SPOUTS ! What Can We Do ?
Reply #23   Jan 15, 2011 12:04 am
lseap107 wrote:
I have found this type of sput to work very effectivly.  You turn the gas can over and just push the button and the gas comes out.  Release the button to stop the flow.  They sell them on amzon with the can or just the spout.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W9JN4S/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B000W9LRQK&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=04DFQ31W809BTFFYH5NH

No-Spill 1450 5-Gallon Poly Gas Can (CARB Compliant)


I have two of these, a 2.5 gallon and a 5 gallon.  The valve is easy to operate, the anti spill flow stop works well enough. 

The black cap thing is difficult to remove while trying to depress the two wings on the side.  I almost need a third hand to do it.

This brand is one of the better ones, but I think the cap removal should be easier.
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