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chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
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Which single stage has the most power
Original Message   Oct 27, 2010 8:36 am
Preface: I've have has a HS520. Due to space contraints, etc - I'm not looking at 2 stage. Single stage for the most part is a perfect fit just short of....living on the right side and the plows only plow to the right so I cam constantly getting plowed in... Throw is fine already on the HS520. I was only curios does the 421/221 or even any current models on the market may have a bit more bite on the EOD/overnight plowed snow...
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chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
Points: 175

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #62   Nov 8, 2010 11:35 am
Yeah. The beauty with that and the Kapex in a indoor setup...is 90%+ of the dust is captured.
I don't have the exact percentage but it is HUGE...

BUT, FWIW, it's not now loud as thunder Shopvac.
I feel like I have to baby the Festool.

The bigger regular $50 shopvacs are lounder, and has more  ballz, and I would not hesitate using those as a wet vac....

But the Festool lineup is a ~system~....

While on the topic of tools, previously was using Makita drills, went over to Panasonic drills (sleeper brand like the HS621) but I'm back over to the Makita's.....
Impacts, Drills.  All very balance. Don't really ever need more than 14.4...

Snap On for the track bollts. That thing has some serious torque that no others can compare.
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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
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Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #63   Nov 8, 2010 11:46 am
You should have never pointed out the Kapex 120.  What a saw.

Ok, I'm not going to visit Festool website, ever again.  I'm just going to put up with loud as a turbine Shop Vac.
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chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
Points: 175

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #64   Nov 8, 2010 11:53 am
Here's my comparisons.
I would never buy a Honda Snowblower at retail. It's not that important to me to pay the rate of that.
Used is another matter.

With that said, on the Festools, they are similar in price in that they are one of the most expensive lineups in their pedigree.
To a degree, there are alot of products out there at 50% less that will do 90% of the same job as the Festool.

What I like about their products (sanding and cutting) is that they are well balanced, feels great in the hand after long hours and they capture dust very efficiently and is very accurate.
Why cut 3 times when you can get the perfect cut the 1st time around on a miter saw

For drills, I go Makita or Panasonic..
Grinders - Metabo
etc, etc. The list goes on....
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
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Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #65   Nov 8, 2010 11:59 am
chefwong wrote:
Why cut 3 times when you can get the perfect cut the 1st time around on a miter saw


You're breaking my heart.  What??? Tell me you have a cabinet saw! 
chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
Points: 175

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #66   Nov 8, 2010 12:08 pm
I wish.......but anything remote close to interior grader furniture, my cabinetmaker is the man to go to.

Just a portable Table Saw, Jigsaw or Worm Saw.....for sheet goods.
Nothing special. A couple of jigs to make things easier.

Ha. In another life, I would be working with power tools for a living ;-)
aa335


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Points: 2434

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #67   Nov 8, 2010 4:59 pm
chefwong wrote:
- Scraper, Paddles, Belt - $125

Are these OEM or aftermarket paddles?  I bought aftermarket ones which costs less, I think they were half price of OEM, but they were very soft and did not last very long.  If you're ginger, the paddles might last a while.    The OEM ones are stiffer and seems to be better constructed.
aa335


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Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #68   Nov 9, 2010 1:47 am
chefwong wrote:

You may need to eyeball it, but how much rubber do you have from the edge of the auger paddle to the auger support (as if the paddles are mounted on).
 
3/4" edge of rubber to edge of metal auger.  Total width or rubber is 2" exact.
chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
Points: 175

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #69   Nov 9, 2010 8:54 am
Thx aa335. I actually had a weird hunch it would be 3/4".
Briefly browsing a couple of sites, while I did not compare part #'s, some sites listed the paddles the same for 520/621.

Nevertheless, I'm not sure how much wear is imposed with use just due to it being rubber...but the manual states that one should replace them when it is down to 5/8".

The parts I speced were OEM. If I am not familiar with a brand and the 3rd party alternatives, I generally stick with OEM.
At 50% less, sometimes you do have to learn the hard way by buying and comparing to know if it's worth the difference or not.

ie: Miele Vacuumn Bags in my opinion are better than the 3rd parties.
Reputable places where I buy spare misc parts for my cars (I'm the type that will replace even even a retaining holder) just because I like to keep things all new and fresh...
Anyhow, I order a sidemarker light that was 3rd party BUT listed as Just as OEM.  When I pulled the OEM unit out, and compared - the lens housing was the same manuf. as
the one I received. However, the Gasket Material if not the O Ring on the OEM was 2X as thick as the one I received.
aa335


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Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #70   Nov 9, 2010 9:57 am
chefwong wrote:
Thx aa335. I actually had a weird hunch it would be 3/4".
Briefly browsing a couple of sites, while I did not compare part #'s, some sites listed the paddles the same for 520/621.

Nevertheless, I'm not sure how much wear is imposed with use just due to it being rubber...but the manual states that one should replace them when it is down to 5/8".

The parts I speced were OEM. If I am not familiar with a brand and the 3rd party alternatives, I generally stick with OEM.
At 50% less, sometimes you do have to learn the hard way by buying and comparing to know if it's worth the difference or not.

ie: Miele Vacuumn Bags in my opinion are better than the 3rd parties.
Reputable places where I buy spare misc parts for my cars (I'm the type that will replace even even a retaining holder) just because I like to keep things all new and fresh...
Anyhow, I order a sidemarker light that was 3rd party BUT listed as Just as OEM.  When I pulled the OEM unit out, and compared - the lens housing was the same manuf. as
the one I received. However, the Gasket Material if not the O Ring on the OEM was 2X as thick as the one I received.

The part numbers should be different.  Honda changed the paddle design for the 520, they are not interchangeable.   The center paddle on the 621 is longer and will not fit the 520, and vica versa.

If you need more replacement parts to restore that 621 to full glory, here's a place to buy parts.  I don't know of any other place as comprehensive inventory.

http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Honda/Snow%20Blower/0/HS621%20A-A%20SNOW%20BLOWER%2C%20JPN%2C%20VIN%23%20SZAN-1000001%20TO%20SZAN-1038238/parts.html

Stick with OEM paddles.  I don't know who made the aftermarket one but it was not as robust.  My paddles are beginning to split at the middle of the two plies.

I have the Miele Aquarius and I know exactly what you mean.  After owning it for 2 plus year, I'm glad I didn't get "sucked" into the hype of Dyson vacs or any type of cyclonic bagless vacs.  The success of Dyson is clever marketing and distribution, like Bose, but cannot hold a candle to even mid fi audio..  I've also used paper filter bags and the always seems to blow out dust every time I change them.   Miele fabric bags are the best.  The dust and dirt keep gets tightly packed in the bag, but it doesn't clog and reduce the suction power.  If Miele makes snowblowers, I'd buy one too.
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chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
Points: 175

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #71   Nov 22, 2010 8:51 am
AA - Don't recall was it this thread or a another thread but I do recall you mentioning a paddle redesign.
There is reference to a paddle redesign on the 520 on this thread.....

Is there one for the 621 that you are aware of ?
I looked through all the parts on the the years for the 621 and the auger/paddle design all look the same.....

BTW, did you end up replacing your Auger Bearings on the 621.
That's the only part I need to break down to see if that will need be changed.

I considered the chute collar/springs/tension holders (the 3 springs) that lock the chute but it seems mighty fine.....and still have plenty of tension.
I would be replacing the throttle springs and such (anything that should have stretched in 10 years time)...
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