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chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
Points: 175

Which single stage has the most power
Original Message   Oct 27, 2010 8:36 am
Preface: I've have has a HS520. Due to space contraints, etc - I'm not looking at 2 stage. Single stage for the most part is a perfect fit just short of....living on the right side and the plows only plow to the right so I cam constantly getting plowed in... Throw is fine already on the HS520. I was only curios does the 421/221 or even any current models on the market may have a bit more bite on the EOD/overnight plowed snow...
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chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
Points: 175

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #30   Nov 1, 2010 11:04 am
The place of business was a large flea market setup with booths, indoors and outdoors. I assume these guys get ~deals~ from various sources.... There was a Yamaha track model on CL for cheap, but I believed it has some mechanical issues and it was on tracks... Same goes for HS50 or HS80's.... I think the OPE OCD has hit me, cause I find myself on CL looking for deals....on a 2 stager.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #31   Nov 1, 2010 1:24 pm
chefwong wrote:
 I think the OPE OCD has hit me, cause I find myself on CL looking for deals....on a 2 stager.

I think you mis-diagnosed yourself, it's not OCD, but an addiction.  :)  Big difference.

You came to the right place. Happiness loves company. 

The HS928 is where its at.  Buy once, cry once.  Ancient Chinese proverb.
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #32   Nov 1, 2010 2:41 pm
aa335 wrote:
I think you mis-diagnosed yourself, it's not OCD, but an addiction.  :)  Big difference.

You came to the right place. Happiness loves company. 

The HS928 is where its at.  Buy once, cry once.  Ancient Chinese proverb.


If you really want to drive yourself crazy, do what I did (twice). Buy your snow blower during the warm weather months so you can agonize all spring, summer and fall waiting for snow. I bought my HS624WA at a yard sale in May of 2000 and had to wait about 6 months before I could use it. Just this past March, I bought my new to me HS928TA and have been waiting ever since to use my new toy. Talk about a glutton for punishment!
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Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
Points: 175

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #33   Nov 1, 2010 2:57 pm
On the single stages, I could not fathom buying one used unless it was in great condition and $150 or less. That is just moreso the mechanics of them, and belt drive and paddles costs $$$, which bring the net costs to ??? at the end of day. For example, the honda manual states that the paddles should be replaced when it measures 5/8". Brand new, it measures 3/4" inch. Granted I have not had long term experience owning a single stage and have one prior (just not long term), I cannot benchmark the life you get out of these things. Part of it will depends on operator usage I suppose and technique... 2 Stages I am open to exploring used as the mechanics are them from the mait. standpoint is either going to be shearpins, oil and maybe a carb rebuilt/new skid shoes. So as long as mechanically and bodily *rust free, chip free* the 2 stages are good, I'm kewl with that.... What comes 1st. Should I start planning how much concrete blocks and bricks I will need ? Or what stones I should use instead of bricks ;-) Don't roll you eyes - if I have to have a shed, aesthetics counts .
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #34   Nov 1, 2010 3:41 pm
There was a fellar that came in passing by a month ago, asking all sorts of question, creme de la creme blah blah, ended up with bottom of the barrel Lada de Ariens.  I hope we're not seeing second coming of that anytime soon.

Anyways, how long are you planning to stay at your current house again? 
alty


Joined: Nov 1, 2010
Points: 38

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #35   Nov 1, 2010 3:54 pm
"  For example, the honda manual states that the paddles should be replaced when it measures 5/8". Brand new, it measures 3/4" inch. "

Chefwong - you're talking me into the Toro instead of the Honda.  1/8 inch seems like a pretty small wear factor.

superbuick


Joined: Feb 23, 2009
Points: 138

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #36   Nov 1, 2010 4:11 pm
alty - the Toro is the better choice. Its not that the honda is bad, its just that the Toro is considerably better.
chefwong


Joined: Dec 18, 2004
Points: 175

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #37   Nov 1, 2010 4:13 pm
Don't know much on the Toro Single Stages. If I had to choose a Toro SS, it would be the 221QR. At $700 for it, I would rather spend 2fold and get a 2 stage.. A used great 2 stage can probably be had for 50% of new 221QR. Their pricing on replacement paddles is slightly less than the Honda's comparatively. When I considered a used HS621, I decided to flip through my manual and on my HS520 book, it stated 5/8" is the wear edge. So then I proceeded to measure against my brand new paddles, to at least know what a reference point would be and surprisingly it was 3/4". The asking price on single stage used I personally find is high.. At one point in my life, I bought a Toro 1800 for $50 and sold it back the following month for $150.. 2 Stages - ahh so many golden treasures. Simplicity, Honda, Plenty or Ariens 724/824 but I would rather have a Platinum or 30 Professional, etc etc. There are a good amount of Honda track units but nary a nil on the wheel units on my local searches. Granted, every region will price differently......
alty


Joined: Nov 1, 2010
Points: 38

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #38   Nov 1, 2010 4:26 pm
" Its not that the honda is bad, its just that the Toro is considerably better. "

Superbuick - you're probably right.  I'm guessing people tend toward the Honda for the 'engine' .  Then again - the performance is a product of the total sum

of its parts.  The engine is one of many - although a large one.  Toro's updated power propel / zip deflector / quick shoot control combination is a tough act

to follow.  Also, I've heard earlier how the engines outlast the other components anyway - more food for thought.

aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Which single stage has the most power
Reply #39   Nov 1, 2010 5:32 pm

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