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thorn


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Craftsman 1350 Series - Leaking something yellow under the front
Original Message   Dec 11, 2009 10:19 pm
I just used my 1350 for the first time (bought used about a month ago, but only a year old)... 944.527394 (well the model doesn't show up, but that's the right number - it's a 27 inch OHV B&S 1350 series 305 cc machine) It snowed about 5 inches of snow a couple of days ago and of course I had to deal with the snowplow "droppings" at the end of the driveway. It went through it all pretty good. Good shooting of the snow and no problems with things when I was blowing the snow. I come out to the garage the next morning and I thought 5 or 6 dogs took a leak on my garage door from the pool of yellow liquid I saw. I open up the garage door and see this pool of yellow liquid under the front of the blower and going out and under the garage door. Question, would this be the auger gear oil? It says it takes Ronex ED #1 (Extra Duty) and I think it is yellow in colour, but wow that just baffles me as to how much was there. After that there seemed to be some light green liquid there too. Maybe the other guy coated it with something, but I'm afraid to start the blower for fear of destroying the auger casing. No gas smell and the oil level is perfect at the fill level... Before I start taking things apart, I'd appreciate some input as to what this likely is and what I need to do (new auger gearcase maybe, new auger gasket,) Also good place to get parts in Canada? I see that these are Husky machines, but not sure if Craftsman parts are cheaper than Husky or not. good info in these threads so hoping borat or snowmachine can chime in http://www.abbysguide.com/ope/discussions/32378-A-1.html http://www.abbysguide.com/ope/discussions/33989-0-1.html Cheers
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thorn


Joined: Dec 11, 2009
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Re: Craftsman 1350 Series - Leaking something yellow under the front
Reply #35   Jan 8, 2010 1:43 am
hirschallan wrote:
Thorn I seem to disagree with your statement. The blowers that have a bracket are usually the more powerful / larger machines with a wide bucket and therefore need to support the gear case a bit. Its not that they have up and down play but rather to keep auger shafts inline under stressful conditions and to avoid damaging the internals of the gear case.


This is a JD 28" wide blower with a support. Same size engine (13.5 B&S) as mine with only an inch wider casing. http://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCatalog/HO/product/productlargerview/HO_LP1695441_LargerView.html http://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCatalog/HO/servlet/com.deere.u90785.cce.productcatalog.view.servlets.ProdCatProduct?pNbr=LP1695441&tM=HO&link=enav# I do understand what you're saying and what it seems like that my problem is actually the internals of the gear box assy were damaged because of not having a bracket in place. I removed the shearpin bolts off right at the very beginning to see if I could pull of the auger shaft, but then realized that I needed to pull the impeller bearing assy off to get the whole thing out.
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thorn


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Re: Craftsman 1350 Series - Leaking something yellow under the front
Reply #36   Jan 8, 2010 1:55 am
The impeller hub shear bolts are called Capscrews as well They go right into the impeller hub 1/4-20 x 1 5/8 - 2 of them. part number in my manual is 74780426
snowmachine


Location: Washington State
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Re: Craftsman 1350 Series - Leaking something yellow under the front
Reply #37   Jan 8, 2010 8:56 am
hirschallan wrote:
The impeller shear pins were fine when I took it apart. ???????????? Have not seen those. Am I missing something ????

#10 in this picture

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thorn


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Re: Craftsman 1350 Series - Leaking something yellow under the front
Reply #38   Jan 9, 2010 9:54 pm
Ok, went into the Husky repair guy and both of us had a look at their existing used ones they had. Many of them had the same amount of play I did on mine. He said it was actually normal for them to have some play after they were used for a while. So that means to me that the only thing that could be wrong that started all of this is that my gearbox assy gasket went... So thanks for everyone's help. Knee-biter has an extra bracket that I am going to buy from him since it will cause some more peace of mind and I ordered a gasket from the Husky guy for $4... The Husky guy said he didn't want to sell me the $50CDN bearing kit as it might not solve my problem and really not necessary. After looking at similar snowblowers I can see that it would likely be a waste... Thanks again for everyone's help with this... guess I was just way too worried about the assy. I will keep an eye on things, but for now I will go back to just using the thing :) CHeers
snowmachine


Location: Washington State
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Re: Craftsman 1350 Series - Leaking something yellow under the front
Reply #39   Jan 10, 2010 7:08 pm
Were these used Husky's both bushing & bearing models? thorn wrote:
Ok, went into the Husky repair guy and both of us had a look at their existing used ones they had. Many of them had the same amount of play I did on mine. He said it was actually normal for them to have some play after they were used for a while. So that means to me that the only thing that could be wrong that started all of this is that my gearbox assy gasket went... So thanks for everyone's help. Knee-biter has an extra bracket that I am going to buy from him since it will cause some more peace of mind and I ordered a gasket from the Husky guy for $4... The Husky guy said he didn't want to sell me the $50CDN bearing kit as it might not solve my problem and really not necessary. After looking at similar snowblowers I can see that it would likely be a waste... Thanks again for everyone's help with this... guess I was just way too worried about the assy. I will keep an eye on things, but for now I will go back to just using the thing :) CHeers
thorn


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Re: Craftsman 1350 Series - Leaking something yellow under the front
Reply #40   Jan 10, 2010 11:29 pm
good question, no they weren't which may mean the newer ones don't have the same slop because the bearings are fixing them :)
snowmachine


Location: Washington State
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Re: Craftsman 1350 Series - Leaking something yellow under the front
Reply #41   Jan 11, 2010 5:29 pm
I think a majority of the 2008/2009 Husky lineup had bearings...aside from the lower end homeowner models. 2008/2009 lineup here

http://www.heavydutyturf.com/husqy/2008SnowBrochure_Consumer.pdf

There was some transition in 2007 since I saw a thread here about someone going to HD to buy a Husky and those models having bushings versus bearings. They contacted Husky and were told the product line was in transition. This was early 2007 IIRC. I will "safely" take a video next weekend when I goto my cabin of my auger in motion. You can then compare if it is better or worse than what you currently have. thorn wrote:

good question, no they weren't which may mean the newer ones don't have the same slop because the bearings are fixing them :)

Message #9 in this old thread talks about it---> http://www.abbysguide.com/ope/discussions/20732-0-1.html

Even low end 924SB has them for 2009/2010 even though representative picture shows bushing models.

http://www.husqvarna.com/us/homeowner/products/snow-throwers/compare-snow-throwers/

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snowmachine


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Re: Craftsman 1350 Series - Leaking something yellow under the front
Reply #42   Jan 15, 2010 3:34 pm
Last "20 seconds" of this guys video on Youtube shows you typical stock movement of auger in these units----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnAOcOmoK2o
snowmachine


Location: Washington State
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Re: Craftsman 1350 Series - Leaking something yellow under the front
Reply #43   Jan 16, 2010 1:31 pm
Here is a short video of my auger in action---> http://tinyurl.com/yemv6y3
trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
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Re: Craftsman 1350 Series - Leaking something yellow under the front
Reply #44   Jan 16, 2010 7:06 pm

   It looks like the machines of snowmachine, thorn and the belt change machine all are fairly new and have the same problem.  It’s got to be a design or build problem.  If I had a second hand machine that jumped around like that I couldn’t sell it to anyone.   The belt change machine sounds like it has some banging like it's 15 years old and had lots of service.

 

   When the belt change guy first starts his augers the gearbox jumps a half inch then seems to go in a oval.  It’s like it has side slop and either the rake axle is not long enough, rakes not pinned and the axle has a bend in the middle. 

 

   Snowmachine’s video is bouncing around so though to tell but it looks like his gearbox has the wobble also.  He’s got his shaft ends anchored and so does thorn.  It seems like the most likely thing is the rake axle is not straight and bowed in the middle along with side slop. 

 

   One possibility for the seeming oval movement is the axle is bowed and the two side bearings are not in the same plane with the center of the gearbox.  With a little slop that would make an oval.

 

   The machines all work and could last for years but it’s got to be taking a toll on the flanges and bearings.

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