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djbutz


Joined: Jan 24, 2009
Points: 2

A rookie looking for advice on the big ones
Original Message   Jan 24, 2009 1:51 am
I've just stumbled on to this web site and think it's great!   I'm totally new to the snowblower world, but would like to jump into it. 

I  have a 650cc four wheeler that I put a plow on that does an awesome job on my 32 ft x 45 ft driveway and 250 ft of sidewalk,

because I have room to push it all, but now have been offered a side job clearing 24 drives in a condo complex, which are all

sloped, and the plow isn't  going to work well there because lack of places to push the snow. The guy who has done it for the

past few years has a front mounted blower on a walker riding mower.  I've doing some research and thought I was set on a

Ariens 1336, but after reading some of the things people have had to say about them I'm back to square one.  I'm hopeing

that you guys can give me some insite as to what would be a good purchace to get the job done in a timely fashion. I

usually keep any thing I buy forever, so I kind of believe in " you get what you pay for ", but since I'm new to the snowblower

world I'm not sure if that still applies 

Thanks for Your time and Knowledge- Dan

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nhmatt


Joined: Dec 21, 2008
Points: 104

Re: A rookie looking for advice on the big ones
Reply #11   Jan 28, 2009 6:47 am
Cars are definately better than they were 30 years ago.  My dad could buy a new car for $5000, and it would be junk in 5 years.  Nowadays cars are $25,000, last at least 10 years, and have a ton of bells and whistles.  Not a fair comparison, because snowblowers don't last longer, they don't have more features, and they cost a hell of a lot more than they did.  The slip-o-matic transmission of the ariens is a good example. 

The idea is to make something that works, so people will buy it, and you can make money.   All the motivations you mention are incidental when presented with a machine that doesn't hold up or do its job.  The right amount of money?  How about $3,000 for something that shakes itself apart so you have to massage it back into place every 5-6 hours of operation. Easy to work on?  They'd better be.  These machines are overpriced for what they are.  Buy a $1200 from Home depot before you bother with the beefed-up version of this dinasaur.  Or buy from Sears, but I wouldn't spend a premium price for it.  

 I can see having two lines to hit two different price points, but I look at it like furniture, or everything else in America for that matter.  When we used to make it here, it was good but pricey but we could afford to buy it because we knew it would last.  Then came Japan, and Mexico, and China.  Now there are two choices for American manufacutring: 1) Make it as good as you can and charge a ton for it, because its "expensive" to make things in America.  2) Ship your plant to China, and then ship it back here.  You've seen it in every thing else we do.  Why would snowblowers be any different?  How much for a Harley compared to a rice rocket?  You remember when Harley tried to compete by selling bike-for-bike?  Sure, they were easy to work on.Ariens may indeed be coming out of a very black hole it has entered.  Harley Davidson did.  I remember walking around the showroom with my father while he was looking for a new bike, and seeing puddles of oil on the ground under brand new bikes. 

  5 years is not that long ago, and I doubt they've improved much if any on the guts, or the rust-prone metal.   Availability of parts nowadays is much less a problem.   One thing I did notice about the new Ariens when I was looking at the deaer:  1) They've moved the battery 2) No more motorized chute.  That's probably where they got the extra money to upgrade the engine.  These are both things I would've done, but the new chute feels like it would break in a week.  Plastic is great for a bushing or keeping down weight, or a place where bearings are just going to get too dirty, but I don't know about that joystick.  I bet once it gets cold you're going to shove it, break the trigger lock, and then it won't stay in place while you're blowing.  

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Coldfingers


Joined: Nov 20, 2008
Points: 84

Re: A rookie looking for advice on the big ones
Reply #12   Jan 28, 2009 9:09 am
Well said!!
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