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Bill_D


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Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Original Message   Jul 20, 2005 1:01 am
Just wonderin if this stuff really works. I have the Passport X50, but no match for Laser, and bunch of municipalities here just got some new toys.  I'm up in WI alot to, and they just love us folks w/ IL plates and they all have lazer now I think.
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Marshall


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #1   Jul 20, 2005 6:26 pm
Never used on Bill. I found this though........Veil is about 3/4 the way down.


Police home in on radar dectectors

Canwest News Service
Friday , June 25, 2004
Byline: Sarah Staples
Source: CanWest News Service

Inveterate speed freaks should beware of a stealthy new threat to their claim over the open road: a virtually unbeatable species of "radar detector detector " is quickly being adopted by Canadian police forces to nab motorists who have outlawed radar detectors.

The Spectre II, by Stealth Microsystems Pty Ltd., is selling briskly across the country. The Ontario Provincial Police now has about 60 units on patrol, as do other forces in provinces where radar detectors are illegal.

Spectre II picks up radio frequency "leakage'' coming from the radar detector's oscillators (roughly, its electronic tuning forks) across a much wider range of gigahertz frequencies than in the past.

With older equipment, the Ontario police force estimated about 70 per cent of radar detectors slipped past its net. The technically superior Spectre II, built in Australia , has improved their capture rate substantially since it was introduced in 2002, says Sgt. John McNall , speed management co- ordinator for Ontario .

"The only reason people have a (radar) detector is they want to speed,'' said McNall . ``What's happening now is they are being lulled into a false sense of security (whereas) we have an exceptional device.''

The Uniden LRD-967 is detectable at 986 metres , ditto the LRD-7055C radar detector at less than 560 metres , the Cobra 9560 at 1,400 metres , the Rocky Mountain Radar DLS310 at 1,650 metres , and the PNI Traveller II at 800 metres , he said.

"Currently, nothing on the market can defeat Spectre II,'' said "Radar'' Roy Reyer , a retired police officer and certified radar instructor who sells radar products from his Arizona-based website, www.radarbusters.com

Manufacturers including Escort and Beltronics are working on prototype devices to defeat Spectre .

Motorists from B.C., Alberta and Saskatchewan shouldn't feel entirely safe, although they can legally own radar detectors. In Ontario , Quebec and the Maritimes, where ownership is banned, police in recent years have begun meting out strict punishment to tourists, on the assumption they should have known to disconnect their devices, said McNall .

Along with better means of seeking out radar detectors, police have added to the arsenal they use to catch speeding cars.

"POP'' radar, developed some four years ago by MPH Industries, sends a burst at 65 milliseconds that can defeat over 85 per cent of commercially available radar detectors. It's gaining popularity among state forces in Nevada , New York and Florida , though not yet in Canada.

And portable guns that point beams of light at speed violators, instead of radar, are becoming routine across North America .

Still, Reyer's site receives five orders a day from hopeful Canadians ordering mostly higher-end units, such as Escort's SR7 and the Beltronics RX75, or the newest products: jammers , such as Blinder's M-20, that stay dormant until they detect a laser beam, then send out their own flood of light to confuse the police device.

To increase the odds of beating light, there is "Veil,'' a coating available since December that borrows the principles of stealth used in the U.S. fighter jet program. Painted onto headlamps and licence plates, it masks those key targeting areas by as much as 50 per cent, giving a car going about 120 kilometres an hour roughly seven additional seconds of warning.

Speeders should ask which technology was used to catch them, since radar and even POP radar are comparatively inexact, motorists hauled into court have successfully argued they weren't speeding, Reyer said.

Against Spectre II, Reyer can only recommend defensive maneuvers.

"It can't detect a radar detector that's turned off, so the moment your detector beeps, slow down, turn it off and keep an eye on the friendly police officer. And get out of the way.''

Idnumber : 200406250044
Story Type: News
Note: EDS: "Radar detector detector " or RDD, is correct. It's what police use to nab owners of illegal radar detectors.

Highwind


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #2   Jul 20, 2005 10:28 pm
Never heard of it until a few days ago when someone mentioned a coating for license plates.

I just turn on the cloaking device: "Arrghh Dr'rel gaaak Lr"getch" and pull out a bottle of Klingon ale as I drive by invisibly. Have to watch for even faster drivers coming up from behind who will rear end you.  Keep a rear facing photon torpedo tube loaded at all times, and one of those in the rad slows them down, wiping out 50,000 square miles of real estate. As they say "There goes the neighborhood."

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Vangellis


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #3   Jul 22, 2005 4:26 pm
Highwind wrote:
Never heard of it until a few days ago when someone mentioned a coating for license plates.

I just turn on the cloaking device: "Arrghh Dr'rel gaaak Lr"getch" and pull out a bottle of Klingon ale as I drive by invisibly. Have to watch for even faster drivers coming up from behind who will rear end you.  Keep a rear facing photon torpedo tube loaded at all times, and one of those in the rad slows them down, wiping out 50,000 square miles of real estate. As they say "There goes the neighborhood."



Good Klingonese Admiral Highwind.  LMAO.

Kevin

This message was modified Jul 22, 2005 by Vangellis



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Bill_D


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #4   Jul 22, 2005 6:08 pm
Well I broke down and bought it anyways, I'll let ya all know how it works out.  Yeah, ya put it on your license plate cover, and headlights, and it makes it hard for laser to get you.  My truck is black also, which is the hardest color to radar.   The advantage of this is, my passport X50 will detect laser, but rite now if it detrects it, you are already busted.  Soooo, this gives you the few extra seconds you need to hit the brakes before they get a reading.  I also ordered a cheap "jammer" to help jam their laser as well.  I've read and been told a V1 detector, or Passport X50, used w/ a jammer, and Veil, makes you almost completely undetectable by laser all together.    Plus I hear its fun to watch the cops smack the side of their gun thinkin it's broken. 
Marshall


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #5   Jul 22, 2005 6:25 pm
Plus I hear its fun to watch the cops smack the side of their gun thinkin it's broken.

Definitely would be the best part.
ChrisS


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #6   Jul 23, 2005 11:08 am
I have never used it Bill.  I rely completely on a CB now, I am a big Passport fan but the CB is so effective that I gave it to my parents.

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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #7   Jul 24, 2005 1:50 am
Good fun with the cops.  With a little learning from you guys I can enjoy the speed of life. 

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mrmom


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #8   Jul 24, 2005 8:35 am
So I see you put it on the headlights and license plate cover. What if you don't have a license plate cover? Can you put it on the plate itself?
Bill_D


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #9   Jul 24, 2005 5:22 pm
mrmom wrote:
So I see you put it on the headlights and license plate cover. What if you don't have a license plate cover? Can you put it on the plate itself?


No you need to put it on a cover, it will not work applied to just the plate for some reason.  If you go to a auto part store, you can buy a clear license plate protector for around 3 bucks.
mrmom


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #10   Jul 25, 2005 10:19 pm
Being in NJ ( the land of a thousand laws), I wonder if license plate 'protectors' are illegal?
Bill_D


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #11   Jul 25, 2005 10:48 pm
legal in all 48 states so far.
faithfulFrank


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #12   Jul 30, 2005 1:49 pm
Wow.never heard of such a thing........
I usually drive around 8-10 miles above the speed limit......subscribe to the old saying......"8 you skate, 9 your mine"

Someone told me once that the Gardian angels jump off much over that.....

Maybe i'm a more careful driver with my own vehicles because I can drive a bit different, ( but still safe) when I drive an ambulance or a pumper.  When in those, the rules change a bit.

Frank D.

Ariens 1332DLE Pro, Exmark 52" HP ZTR, Gardian Generac generator, Shindiawa T230  Excell/Honda PW, Craftsman rototiller, Favorite IPE- My Mac + Ipod- No Windoze for me!
mrmom


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #13   Jul 31, 2005 10:31 am
BillD,

What's your opinion of Veil so far? Does it work for you? Am thinking of getting it for our trip this summer.

Marshall


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #14   Jul 31, 2005 6:28 pm
Bill, get out there and haul ass past those troopers buddy. Let us know if it works.
Bill_D


Nice day for a mow!!

Location: Chicago
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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #15   Jul 31, 2005 7:11 pm
mrmom wrote:
BillD,

What's your opinion of Veil so far? Does it work for you? Am thinking of getting it for our trip this summer.


I just put it on today, so I dont have any results yet.  YTou will def need a good radar/laser detector to.  I have the Passport X50.  This will get you about 6-7 seconds of them trying to lazer you, and your detector will alert you they are trying.  Usually as soon as you get a lazer beep on your detector, thjey already have you.  In less than a 1/10th of a second is all it takes.  It was tricky to put on, w/ no streaks, I practiced on an headlamp I had lyi8ng around 1st.  I'll let ya know this week how it works, as I get on the highway, and see. 
mrmom


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #16   Aug 1, 2005 8:27 am
How long did it take for shipping? Will probably order it today and go pick up a plate cover as well. It should work well with the Valentine one.
Bill_D


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #17   Aug 1, 2005 1:31 pm
MrMom, do you have the Valentine1???   That is supposed to be the best detector on the market, hands down.  I received the Veil in about 2-3 days from date of ordering.
Bill_D


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #18   Aug 1, 2005 1:43 pm
mrmom


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #19   Aug 1, 2005 2:01 pm
Bill, have had the V1 now for about 5 years. Got it as a valentine's gift for my wife after she came home one February day with a speeding ticket. She did not know how to react (he he he) so I said just give it a little time to get used to and if you don't like it, I'll use it.  Yeah right! Of course it now stays in the minivan (my ride).

Just sent it in last week for an 'upgrade'. Absolutely love it! The bogey counter and directional arrows are awesome.

Am currently getting ready for a disney trip with the family this month so am looking at Veil and the laser shield. See what happens.

Here's a LINK to a video they did of Veil and other related stuff. Apparently it is 60 megs so I am typing this as it is being downloaded.

Can't wait!

-Patrick-

VeilGuy


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Re: Anyone use VEIL on their vehicle??
Reply #20   Feb 2, 2006 7:54 pm
Bill,

How has the Veil worked out for you?

Veil Guy

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