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My recovery from heart surgery
Original Message   May 22, 2005 5:02 pm
Folks---I have been doing quite well up to about a week ago.  Now for some reason, about every other day I have to take a couple of emergency pills to control my blood pressure.  It just starts climbing and my regular medicine won,t bring it down.    It seems my regularly prescribed medicine , my Cardiologist prescribed, is not doing it,s job.   Makes me sweat it out for 2 or 3 hours until my emergency pill, Clonidine, starts working.  Please pray for me and ask the almighty God to help my Drs, and the medicine to regulate this problem.  I feel good and am gradually gaining my strength but I need some help---Thank you all and may the almighty God bless you and your family and keep you, now and always--Your friend Will

Will--sometimes called pecanmanwill
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Re: My recovery from heart surgery
Reply #11   May 23, 2005 11:09 am

Will

 

Something else to think about.  Some sadness and “blues” can be a very normal part of the recovery process, especially when you have had to restrict some of the activities you so enjoy as you get your strength back, especially for people who are used to being active like you .  And I think knowing that feeling sad, sometimes seemingly for no reason, can be a very normal part of your recovery, helps ease things a little too….knowing that what you are feeling is very, very normal and that it will pass.  If you are struggling with it, talk to your doctor about it too….some doctors tend to focus so much on the physical part of recovery they forget about the other part (the emotional and mental part of recovery) which to me is just as important. 

 

Just something else to consider and so you know that what you are going through is very normal. 

 

Keeping you in my prayers Will

 

Paula

pecanmanwill


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Re: My recovery from heart surgery
Reply #12   May 23, 2005 11:13 am
Paula--I think you are right and I appreciate your kind words---Will

Will--sometimes called pecanmanwill
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Re: My recovery from heart surgery
Reply #13   May 23, 2005 5:29 pm
take good care Will...

there are a lot of good people here wishing you the best.

Sherri and i are are hoping you will be better soon too.

later chris 

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Re: My recovery from heart surgery
Reply #14   May 23, 2005 6:15 pm
Hi Will,

You are in my prayers.

What you are going through (as Chris said) is normal. I bet that after you figured it out from Chris's post, your anxiety level dropped down quite a bit. So now it's less fuel for the fire. Just keep on top of your BP checks and you should be fine with the meds at hand.

Take care.

-Patrick-

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Re: My recovery from heart surgery
Reply #15   May 23, 2005 8:52 pm
pecanmanwill wrote:
Folks I am crying my eyes out while I am reading all of your prayers.   You don,t know how I appreciate all of you.  Chris--you told me something I had not thought of.  I am doing so well in every other way I had not thought of what you stated, but it makes sense.   Strange, I did not realize it but about a month ago when it started my cardiologist told me much like you stated.  I had had several days where the BP ran away until I treated it. He was not alarmed and he told me to continue and not be afraid to take the clonidine. He thinks I am doing great and I think now he is right---again thank all of you and God bless you now and always---Will


I am glad my words were able to help you Will.  I can say this, I know our prayers will.  Even the American Medical Association (AMA) has admitted through studies that prayer helps people.  They don't understand how but they now accept that it does and many doctors today encourage prayer by patients and their family and friends. 

I have been following you as best I can Will and from what I have been reading you are doing simply fantastic.  Heck I am hard pressed to think of someone who has been through what you have been through and DID NOT have variations in their blood pressure at times. 

Again you relax and hang in there, your body is just figuring things out again.  You are going to be just fine.

C



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Re: My recovery from heart surgery
Reply #16   May 23, 2005 10:10 pm
Dear Will,
Our continued prayers are with you.
As you know far better then I, in unsteady times a good Bible verse gives us strength to keep pressing on.
Here is one I know you already know and love.....

"Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand. Be anxious in nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be known to God; and the peace of God, which passes all understanding, will guard our hearts and minds in Christ Jesus."   Philippians chapter 4, verses 5-6

Between Chris's good advice, your good Dr's care, and the prayers of those who you have been a blessing to, you cannot help but to have only good days ahead of you.

I pray that someday I could be half the man of God as you have shown yourself to be..........we are all enriched by your friendship, and you can bet you have our prayers.


Keep us posted Will,

In His grip of Grace,

Frank D.

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Re: My recovery from heart surgery
Reply #17   May 23, 2005 10:24 pm
I did not know that the AMA decided to accept prayer.  That's just plain great. 

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Re: My recovery from heart surgery
Reply #18   May 23, 2005 11:06 pm
Yes, the exact studies escape me now.  They don't understand it but they admit that patient's that have faith, pray, have family and friends pray for them have better outcomes, get better faster and have a more positive attitude than those that do not. 

C

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Re: My recovery from heart surgery
Reply #19   May 23, 2005 11:39 pm
These are just a few articles from the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), the first is just a portion, the other two are complete.  There are many more in this and other medical journals, these are just what I was able to quickly find tonight....I had to cut and paste them as three different posts as I could not get them to cut and paste together correctly.

Relationships between mental health and strong faith, devout prayer, and religious socialization may have consequences that are far-reaching and perhaps greatly underestimated. Religious involvement is associated with improved attendance at scheduled medical appointments,38 greater cooperativeness,37 better compliance,39-41 and improved medical outcomes.42-43 A number of well-designed prospective studies have found that those who are more religious or spiritual have lower blood pressure,44 fewer cardiac events,45 possible regression of coronary artery obstruction,46 better results following heart surgery,43 and longer survival in general.47-48

Pathways exist to help explain why religious beliefs and practices like prayer could influence physical as well as mental health. Sympathetic and parasympathetic nerve tracks connect thoughts and emotions in the brain to the circulatory system, coronary arteries, lymph nodes, bone marrow, and spleen.49-50 If religious beliefs and prayer help patients cope better with illness and result in less stress, anxiety, and depression and greater social support, then they may counteract stress-related physiological changes that impair healing. Preliminary evidence suggests that religious involvement may be related to stronger immune functioning51-54 and lower cortisol levels.51, 53 Religious involvement is also associated with less substance abuse (98/120 studies), less cigarette smoking (23/25 studies), and more exercise (3/5 studies), which adds to the health effects of social and cognitive factors.1 Although randomized clinical trials that demonstrate causality are lacking, such studies are now under way among patients with breast cancer and will soon be undertaken in patients with congestive heart failure.

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Re: My recovery from heart surgery
Reply #20   May 23, 2005 11:51 pm
Toward Meaning

Chaplain Bruce D. Feldstein, MD
Stanford, Calif

JAMA. 2001;286:1291-1292.

When I came on duty at 3 PM, it seemed like the most ordinary of days. At the time I was a senior physician in a high-acuity emergency department at Kaiser-Permanente Medical Center in Santa Clara, Calif, chair of the Peer Review and Quality Improvement Program, and faculty in the Stanford-Kaiser emergency medicine residency program.

I took sign-out from Dr Koscove, who told me, "I've got an 86-year-old woman, Mrs Martinez, in room 17 with nausea, vomiting, and dehydration and a history of metastatic lung cancer previously treated with chemotherapy and radiation. She was discharged from the hospital two days ago for the same thing. I controlled the nausea and vomiting with IVs and ordered a CT scan to look for brain metastases and signs of increased intracranial pressure. I told her you're taking over. You'll need to review the scan, and see if she can tolerate oral fluids, before discharging her."

I walked over and introduced myself to Mrs Martinez (not her real name) and her son. She was sitting quietly on the gurney.

"Hello, I'm Dr Feldstein. I'm taking over for Dr Koscove. I see that you're feeling better. I'll have the nurse bring you some water while I review the blood tests. If you can keep the water down and the tests are OK as I expect, then I can discharge you home to follow up tomorrow with your oncologist, Dr Post" (also it is not a real name).

At that moment the nurse interrupted. "Dr Feldstein, there's a call for you." I excused myself. The ward clerk handed me Mrs Martinez' CT result: "Multiple brain metastasis. No shift." Sobered, I put the slip in my pocket to give to Dr Koscove. It was a good pickup.

After I took the call, I asked an intern who was going into radiation oncology to look at the scan and to accompany me, since he'd be seeing patients like Mrs Martinez. We headed back to her room.

"Mrs Martinez, I'm glad to see you're keeping down the water. Your blood test results are normal. I'm going to give you a stronger medicine to control the nausea and vomiting and arrange for you to see Dr Post tomorrow."

Before I could continue, Mrs Martinez looked directly at me and asked, "Doctor, what was the result of the brain test?" I was taken aback. I had been planning to let her regular oncologist tell her the news, but she spoke with such forthrightness and courage.

I pulled up a stool next to the gurney and sat down. "Mrs Martinez, the CT scan is abnormal," I said. "It shows that the cancer has spread to the brain."

Mrs Martinez looked down. Her face became pale and stricken. I was keenly aware that this was not the kind of test result one simply tells a patient and walks out.

Gently, and after a long pause, I asked, "What is your reaction?"

"This is a death sentence," she said, looking away.

"What do you mean ‘death sentence'?" I asked.

Mrs Martinez explained. "I knew that with the cancer one day I would die, but I did not expect it so soon."

I tried to reassure her. "Mrs Martinez, Dr Post is very experienced in this situation. Tomorrow you will discuss with him the kinds of treatment that will help you." She did not seem reassured. I thought about saying "I know how you feel," but I did not know how she felt.

I then noticed her wearing a large crucifix around her neck and recalled a story about a cardiologist praying with his patient.1 I knew what I had to do. I felt very uncomfortable. I have talked about spirituality and religion with my patients on previous occasions, but the thought of explicitly praying with a patient, that was another matter. How was I to proceed?

"Are you a prayerful person?" I asked with hesitation.

Mrs Martinez nodded. "Yes."

Awkwardly I offered, "Well, then, would you like to have a prayer together?"

She immediately looked up at me. "Yes, I would."

Now what? We were from such different worlds. She was Catholic, originally from Mexico. I am Jewish, originally from Detroit and, at 43, half her age. We had only just met. She prayed to Jesus. I did not pray to Jesus. What would I say? I certainly had not been prepared in medical school for a situation like this.

I took her hands in mine. We closed our eyes. I waited for her to begin, but I soon realized she was waiting for me to begin.

I began to speak, trusting the proper words would come and she would find comfort in them.

"Oh, God, You Who are the Great Healer."

I paused for a moment, thinking of what to say next when Mrs Martinez repeated, "Oh, God, You Who are the Great Healer."

She was repeating after me! Now I had to find the right words that she could repeat.

"Who guides us through life," I said.

"Who guides us through life," she repeated.

I continued and Mrs Martinez repeated.

"In your wisdom . . . "

". . . may you guide Dr Post and all the other doctors and nurses to provide the best care."

"Provide us all with Your comfort and guidance . . . "

I brought the prayer to a close. "Thank you for hearing our prayer."

"Thank you for hearing our prayer," she echoed.

"Amen."

"Amen."

Relieved, I opened my eyes. But hers remained closed. She didn't let go of my hand and began the Lord's Prayer: "Our Father, Who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name . . . " I joined in as best I could.

Then Mrs Martinez began to pray in Spanish to Saint Jude—the patron saint of hopeless cases, as I later learned. She finished and we both opened our eyes. Mrs Martinez appeared visibly calmer. She looked directly and deeply into my eyes. "Thank you," she said softly, a tear falling across her cheek. Her son's eyes too were filled with tears.

"Thank you," I replied. I too was tearful and filled with a profound sense of gratitude.

Mrs Martinez gave my hand a last squeeze. Our prayers had taken only a few minutes, but it seemed much, much longer. Finally, I stood to say good-bye, telling her I would arrange for her discharge.

The intern appeared stunned. "What did you think?" I later asked him. He did not seem to know what to say. "I have to admit to you," I continued, "I was not even planning to tell her the CT results, let alone pray with her. I've never prayed with a patient before, but her question required an answer and I had to take care of her reaction." We discussed how Mrs Martinez had not seemed to be reassured that Dr Post was experienced, how psychological and philosophical approaches were inadequate, and how I arrived at prayer.

Praying with Mrs Martinez felt so completely right. But was it? It truly comforted her and her son. As for me, I walked out feeling "well used," not bleak or hopeless, as I would have felt otherwise. But praying with a patient? Is it ethical? Is it legal? What if someone complained and referred it to the Peer Review and Quality Improvement Committee? Wait. I was the chair of Peer Review and Quality Improvement. Would I be reported to my own committee?

That episode was never brought up, but I could not stop thinking about it. Later, as a visiting scholar at the Stanford Center for Bioethics, I examined this case in detail under the ethical microscope with Professor Ernlé Young, ethicist and codirector.

Dr Young and I looked at it in terms of core ethical principles: to do good (beneficence), to do no harm (nonmaleficence), and to respect a patient's autonomy. We examined it in terms of the duties of truth telling (veracity), loyalty and putting the patient first (fidelity), of confidentiality and privacy. We contemplated the virtues of compassion and professionalism. We reflected on the goals of a physician to relieve pain and suffering and to provide comfort, as well as the value of the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." A prayer that is supportive and comforting for the patient, that has his or her permission, and is mutually respectful is ethical. One that is proselytizing, coercive, and unrealistic is not.

As Professor Young discussed, the prayer was appropriate on all counts. "Your intentions were ethical," he said, "to tell the truth and to provide comfort, what physicians pledge to do. Mrs Martinez asked you specifically for the test results. You answered truthfully. You were aware how your pronouncement could provide harm and suffering and you followed the Hippocratic principle First, do no harm. Conventional medical, psychological, or philosophical explanations were insufficient or problematic, so you considered a spiritual approach. Prayer is a tremendous source of comfort for people who are prayerful. Although new for you, in the world of spiritual care, offering a prayer is as straightforward as recommending an antibiotic.

"A physician praying with a patient may not be standard practice," he went on, "but this does not make it unethical unless you do not have the permission of the patient or if you conducted your prayer in an unethical way. You identified a cue—the cross—that it would be appropriate to offer a prayer and trusted your deep intuition and judgment. You could have called a cleric if one was available, but then there is the question of timing, to make the right intervention in the right moment. You asked her first if she was a prayerful person. She said yes. Only then did you ask her if she wanted to have a prayer together. She could have said no. You found a common language. You did not tell her what faith to have and did not pray for a miracle."

I was satisfied that that as a physician, praying with Mrs Martinez was right.

In the intervening years I have become a full-time hospital chaplain at Stanford Medical Center. I am more aware than ever how human beings are spiritual beings—whether or not they are religious—concerned with meaning, hope, relationship and love, suffering, and life's mystery. Spirituality is linked to health and spiritual care is a core element of health care. Spiritual care is not something that should be left only to the chaplain.

As with so much in medicine, timing is key. There are many crucial moments that call for a spiritual presence—a listening ear, a gentle touch, a compassionate word, and sometimes a blessing or prayer. So often the physician or nurse or other health care provider is the one who is available. That is why I believe it is not only appropriate but sometimes necessary for them to provide a spiritual response.

As I learned in taking care of Mrs Martinez, doing the right thing means addressing what really matters, sometimes stretching us beyond our professional role as it is currently defined into the further realms of spirituality and meaning.


I took sign-out from Dr Koscove, who told me, "I've got an 86-year-old woman, Mrs Martinez, in room 17 with nausea, vomiting, and dehydration and a history of metastatic lung cancer previously treated with chemotherapy and radiation. She was discharged from the hospital two days ago for the same thing. I controlled the nausea and vomiting with IVs and ordered a CT scan to look for brain metastases and signs of increased intracranial pressure. I told her you're taking over. You'll need to review the scan, and see if she can tolerate oral fluids, before discharging her."

I walked over and introduced myself to Mrs Martinez (not her real name) and her son. She was sitting quietly on the gurney.

"Hello, I'm Dr Feldstein. I'm taking over for Dr Koscove. I see that you're feeling better. I'll have the nurse bring you some water while I review the blood tests. If you can keep the water down and the tests are OK as I expect, then I can discharge you home to follow up tomorrow with your oncologist, Dr Post" (also it is not a real name).

At that moment the nurse interrupted. "Dr Feldstein, there's a call for you." I excused myself. The ward clerk handed me Mrs Martinez' CT result: "Multiple brain metastasis. No shift." Sobered, I put the slip in my pocket to give to Dr Koscove. It was a good pickup.

After I took the call, I asked an intern who was going into radiation oncology to look at the scan and to accompany me, since he'd be seeing patients like Mrs Martinez. We headed back to her room.

"Mrs Martinez, I'm glad to see you're keeping down the water. Your blood test results are normal. I'm going to give you a stronger medicine to control the nausea and vomiting and arrange for you to see Dr Post tomorrow."

Before I could continue, Mrs Martinez looked directly at me and asked, "Doctor, what was the result of the brain test?" I was taken aback. I had been planning to let her regular oncologist tell her the news, but she spoke with such forthrightness and courage.

I pulled up a stool next to the gurney and sat down. "Mrs Martinez, the CT scan is abnormal," I said. "It shows that the cancer has spread to the brain."

Mrs Martinez looked down. Her face became pale and stricken. I was keenly aware that this was not the kind of test result one simply tells a patient and walks out.

Gently, and after a long pause, I asked, "What is your reaction?"

"This is a death sentence," she said, looking away.

"What do you mean ‘death sentence'?" I asked.

Mrs Martinez explained. "I knew that with the cancer one day I would die, but I did not expect it so soon."

I tried to reassure her. "Mrs Martinez, Dr Post is very experienced in this situation. Tomorrow you will discuss with him the kinds of treatment that will help you." She did not seem reassured. I thought about saying "I know how you feel," but I did not know how she felt.

I then noticed her wearing a large crucifix around her neck and recalled a story about a cardiologist praying with his patient.1 I knew what I had to do. I felt very uncomfortable. I have talked about spirituality and religion with my patients on previous occasions, but the thought of explicitly praying with a patient, that was another matter. How was I to proceed?

"Are you a prayerful person?" I asked with hesitation.

Mrs Martinez nodded. "Yes."

Awkwardly I offered, "Well, then, would you like to have a prayer together?"

She immediately looked up at me. "Yes, I would."

Now what? We were from such different worlds. She was Catholic, originally from Mexico. I am Jewish, originally from Detroit and, at 43, half her age. We had only just met. She prayed to Jesus. I did not pray to Jesus. What would I say? I certainly had not been prepared in medical school for a situation like this.

I took her hands in mine. We closed our eyes. I waited for her to begin, but I soon realized she was waiting for me to begin.

I began to speak, trusting the proper words would come and she would find comfort in them.

"Oh, God, You Who are the Great Healer."

I paused for a moment, thinking of what to say next when Mrs Martinez repeated, "Oh, God, You Who are the Great Healer."

She was repeating after me! Now I had to find the right words that she could repeat.

"Who guides us through life," I said.

"Who guides us through life," she repeated.

I continued and Mrs Martinez repeated.

"In your wisdom . . . "

". . . may you guide Dr Post and all the other doctors and nurses to provide the best care."

"Provide us all with Your comfort and guidance . . . "

I brought the prayer to a close. "Thank you for hearing our prayer."

"Thank you for hearing our prayer," she echoed.

"Amen."

"Amen."

Relieved, I opened my eyes. But hers remained closed. She didn't let go of my hand and began the Lord's Prayer: "Our Father, Who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name . . . " I joined in as best I could.

Then Mrs Martinez began to pray in Spanish to Saint Jude—the patron saint of hopeless cases, as I later learned. She finished and we both opened our eyes. Mrs Martinez appeared visibly calmer. She looked directly and deeply into my eyes. "Thank you," she said softly, a tear falling across her cheek. Her son's eyes too were filled with tears.

"Thank you," I replied. I too was tearful and filled with a profound sense of gratitude.

Mrs Martinez gave my hand a last squeeze. Our prayers had taken only a few minutes, but it seemed much, much longer. Finally, I stood to say good-bye, telling her I would arrange for her discharge.

The intern appeared stunned. "What did you think?" I later asked him. He did not seem to know what to say. "I have to admit to you," I continued, "I was not even planning to tell her the CT results, let alone pray with her. I've never prayed with a patient before, but her question required an answer and I had to take care of her reaction." We discussed how Mrs Martinez had not seemed to be reassured that Dr Post was experienced, how psychological and philosophical approaches were inadequate, and how I arrived at prayer.

Praying with Mrs Martinez felt so completely right. But was it? It truly comforted her and her son. As for me, I walked out feeling "well used," not bleak or hopeless, as I would have felt otherwise. But praying with a patient? Is it ethical? Is it legal? What if someone complained and referred it to the Peer Review and Quality Improvement Committee? Wait. I was the chair of Peer Review and Quality Improvement. Would I be reported to my own committee?

That episode was never brought up, but I could not stop thinking about it. Later, as a visiting scholar at the Stanford Center for Bioethics, I examined this case in detail under the ethical microscope with Professor Ernlé Young, ethicist and codirector.

Dr Young and I looked at it in terms of core ethical principles: to do good (beneficence), to do no harm (nonmaleficence), and to respect a patient's autonomy. We examined it in terms of the duties of truth telling (veracity), loyalty and putting the patient first (fidelity), of confidentiality and privacy. We contemplated the virtues of compassion and professionalism. We reflected on the goals of a physician to relieve pain and suffering and to provide comfort, as well as the value of the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." A prayer that is supportive and comforting for the patient, that has his or her permission, and is mutually respectful is ethical. One that is proselytizing, coercive, and unrealistic is not.

As Professor Young discussed, the prayer was appropriate on all counts. "Your intentions were ethical," he said, "to tell the truth and to provide comfort, what physicians pledge to do. Mrs Martinez asked you specifically for the test results. You answered truthfully. You were aware how your pronouncement could provide harm and suffering and you followed the Hippocratic principle First, do no harm. Conventional medical, psychological, or philosophical explanations were insufficient or problematic, so you considered a spiritual approach. Prayer is a tremendous source of comfort for people who are prayerful. Although new for you, in the world of spiritual care, offering a prayer is as straightforward as recommending an antibiotic.

"A physician praying with a patient may not be standard practice," he went on, "but this does not make it unethical unless you do not have the permission of the patient or if you conducted your prayer in an unethical way. You identified a cue—the cross—that it would be appropriate to offer a prayer and trusted your deep intuition and judgment. You could have called a cleric if one was available, but then there is the question of timing, to make the right intervention in the right moment. You asked her first if she was a prayerful person. She said yes. Only then did you ask her if she wanted to have a prayer together. She could have said no. You found a common language. You did not tell her what faith to have and did not pray for a miracle."

I was satisfied that that as a physician, praying with Mrs Martinez was right.

In the intervening years I have become a full-time hospital chaplain at Stanford Medical Center. I am more aware than ever how human beings are spiritual beings—whether or not they are religious—concerned with meaning, hope, relationship and love, suffering, and life's mystery. Spirituality is linked to health and spiritual care is a core element of health care. Spiritual care is not something that should be left only to the chaplain.

As with so much in medicine, timing is key. There are many crucial moments that call for a spiritual presence—a listening ear, a gentle touch, a compassionate word, and sometimes a blessing or prayer. So often the physician or nurse or other health care provider is the one who is available. That is why I believe it is not only appropriate but sometimes necessary for them to provide a spiritual response.

As I learned in taking care of Mrs Martinez, doing the right thing means addressing what really matters, sometimes stretching us beyond our professional role as it is currently defined into the further realms of spirituality and meaning.




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