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lseap107


Location: Wisconsin
Joined: Jan 8, 2011
Points: 23

Honda HS928WA or HS928TA ?
Original Message   Jan 9, 2011 9:57 am
I am considering replacing my Ariens 926 snowblower with possilby a Honda.  I want a better motor and something that is going to tackle the plowed driveway a little better.  I think if I could get a Subaru motor on a larger size Ariens, I would still consider one but they only offer it on the smaller compact model.  Anyway, I can't make up my mind on a tracked model or wheeled model honda.  I live in Wisconsin and have a 3 car wide driveway and sidewalk to do.  Will the tracked unit clear down to the cement or do I have to shovel the little bit it leaves behind after blowing?  Also, would I be able to turn 180 degrees when I get to the end of my sidewalk with the tracked unit or would I have to make my turn in the driveway because I may need more room to make a turn on about a 4 foot wide sidewalk?  Probably still have to do that with a wheeled unit anyway.  I've head a few people state that the tracked unit moves a little easier when you have a little bit of snow under the track but since I have a concrete drive, I may not have that little bit extra to easy the turn.  I really would like to try one out but most all of the dealers around here don't stock the two stage only the single stage.  I would assume because of price and low sales on the larger units.  I saw a used HS1230TA from about 2004 for $2500 but feel that might be too big.  It looks like new and only has about 4 hours of use.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

John 

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Paul7


Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Points: 452

Re: Honda HS928WA or HS928TA ?
Reply #11   Jan 9, 2011 3:33 pm
rubinew wrote:

Now if you can find a wheeled model, that is front heavy, with good traction, then it may work in your area. 


You just described the old Toro Power Shift large frame models with tire chains. 
tkrotchko


Location: Maryland
Joined: Feb 9, 2010
Points: 143

Re: Honda HS928WA or HS928TA ?
Reply #12   Jan 9, 2011 6:19 pm
I've purchased a Honda 1132TAS and while we've not had any snow yet, I've tried maneuvering it on dry blacktop while moving forward, and I haven't had any issue with it. As long as the tracks are moving it feels like its floating a bit because of the design of the treads. I'm not a big guy, either.
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Honda HS928WA or HS928TA ?
Reply #13   Jan 9, 2011 6:22 pm
lseap107

Do you have pictures of your Ariens 926 we can see?  Do you have any pictures or detailed information on Honda HS1132 you are interested in buying?

kderobertis


Location: Melville, NY
Joined: Mar 9, 2010
Points: 30

Re: Honda HS928WA or HS928TA ?
Reply #14   Jan 9, 2011 6:54 pm
I used my Honda HS928TA two days after Christmas for the first time and I was so impressed. I must of had 24 inches of heavy wet show plowed at the EOD and the Honda went thru without slipping on the first pass. The snow being higher than the 20 inch height clearance was no match for the tracked version. My previous Ariens you would have to rock back and forth to get thru the EOD, my reason for going with the Honda HS928TA. Tracked version is great and easy to maneuver in the snow, on dry pavement best to pull then push, with the auger set to highest height. I wouldn't change my tracked version for a wheeled version, very happy with my decision and purchase.
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Ken

trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Honda HS928WA or HS928TA ?
Reply #15   Jan 9, 2011 7:38 pm
kderobertis, just curious.  What Ariens did you have?   Do you know what the factory number was, tires, chains?  Since you  used both it would be interesting to know.  
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rubinew


Joined: Dec 30, 2010
Points: 147

Re: Honda HS928WA or HS928TA ?
Reply #16   Jan 9, 2011 7:55 pm
kderobertis wrote:
I used my Honda HS928TA two days after Christmas for the first time and I was so impressed. I must of had 24 inches of heavy wet show plowed at the EOD and the Honda went thru without slipping on the first pass. The snow being higher than the 20 inch height clearance was no match for the tracked version. My previous Ariens you would have to rock back and forth to get thru the EOD, my reason for going with the Honda HS928TA. Tracked version is great and easy to maneuver in the snow, on dry pavement best to pull then push, with the auger set to highest height. I wouldn't change my tracked version for a wheeled version, very happy with my decision and purchase.



This is good to read. I am very interested in getting a tracked Yamaha, and there are more ppl that complain about tracks, than those who like them :-)

I was begining to get a bit nervous that I might regret the track. I have the same porblem with my current blower, the rocking, wiggling, and plain fighting with it to keep the auger in the snow.

kderobertis


Location: Melville, NY
Joined: Mar 9, 2010
Points: 30

Re: Honda HS928WA or HS928TA ?
Reply #17   Jan 9, 2011 7:57 pm
trouts2 wrote:
kderobertis, just curious.  What Ariens did you have?   Do you know what the factory number was, tires, chains?  Since you  used both it would be interesting to know.  


I had the Ariens 624, much smaller than the current Honda,

Ken

aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Honda HS928WA or HS928TA ?
Reply #18   Jan 10, 2011 12:51 am
lseap107 wrote:
My driveway is 36'wide by 37' long. I have about 60' by 5' of sidewalk to clear. I can throw snow on both sides of my driveway but I usually have some wind that I must contend with so I generally have to blow it to one side. Where the driveway ends and the street begins, I usually blow from one end of the width to the other so I would need to throw it at least 40 feet. My Ariens 926 works fine but it will ride up the plowed in snowbank of my driveway. The other thing I don't like is that it could use one more lower gear. 1st. gear is just a little too fast for the auger when you have to clear the plowed in section.

I have the HS1132 myself and most of the time, I don't need the tracks, but this model only comes in track.  Turning 180 on the sidewalk is a non issue, there's enough room.  Honda snowblowers are surprising short and compact and with a little manhandling, you can pivot it around its center.  The challenge is turning 180 at the garage door, where you have a physical barrier, this will require some skill to turn without hitting that door.  :)  .  I haven't made contact yet.

Your end of drive situation doesn't seem too severe to warrant the strong points of a Honda track snowblower.  The only two useful feature is the variable hydrostatic transmission which does not require feathering of the drive bail to get really slow crawl speeds.  Honda track snowblower can put a lot of weight on the bucket to lessen riding up, but it will ride up when forward speed is too fast or going over driven packed snow.  Put it in scraper mode, bucket fully down, set crawl speed and let it do its job.  Don't rush or force it.  The heavy bucket weight and aggressive serrated teeth auger will do the work.

If you have patience and tolerance, get the tracked version.  I like a little challenge so I don't mind the tracks.  However, your drive way seems short which means there's a lot of turns .  Since you chose to throw it to one side, that also means a lot of chute directional changes.  Cranking the chute and frequent turns can either give you real good exercise or you will end up cussing about it.  Everything about operating a Honda is just more physical. 

If you are dead set on tracks, then by all means get it.  If you consider wheel model instead, I'd offer you to consider a Toro 826OXE and a 221QR combo that would come in at little less than a Honda 928WA.  The 221QR single stage snowblower can zip up and down the sidewalk very fast and will probably outpace a 2 stage snowblower with snow up to 5 inches.  The Toro 826OXE has good power to width ratio to take on EOD nicely.  Both Toro's are very user friendly.  I find the little Toro single are great for grooming curved paver walkways and tight areas.

I like my HS1132 a lot when it is snowing heavily and when the snow at the EOD is nasty.  The sheer volume and distance of snow it process is impressive.  I rarely get 20 inch snowfall to let this machine show it's strength.  Most of the time, the Toro single 421Q or Honda single HS621 is used instead.  But if I were to narrow down what I would practically use, the Toro 826OXE and 421Q would be my choice.
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njal


Joined: Jan 9, 2010
Points: 109

Re: Honda HS928WA or HS928TA ?
Reply #19   Jan 10, 2011 6:30 am
aa335


Tell the truth now! You just want to have  the biggest meanest snow blower
on the block! haha!!!
Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Honda HS928WA or HS928TA ?
Reply #20   Jan 10, 2011 6:43 am
njal wrote:
aa335


Tell the truth now! You just want to have  the biggest meanest snow blower
on the block! haha!!!

No he doesn't.  He just wants to have every machine on the block.
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