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borat


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1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Original Message   Nov 26, 2010 10:57 am
I picked up this old 1983 Toro Power Shovel for dirt cheap.  I found some info on the internet, took it apart to inspect/clean/adjust/lubricate.  Put it all back together and gave it a test run.  These things are incredible!  We've had some serious heavy wet snow here recently.  Not real big dumps.  Maybe 3 to 4 inches at a time.  Certainly deep and wet enough to be difficult to shovel.   I bought this thing for clearing off our fairly large deck.  Couldn't be happier with it's performance.  Why Toro ever stop making these with the gas engine is beyond me.   For it's diminutive size, and little 21cc two stroke engine, this thing can move a lot of snow. 



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hirschallan


If it aint broke don't fix it !!


Location: Northern Hills of NY
Joined: Aug 25, 2005
Points: 327

Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #26   Dec 7, 2010 1:44 pm
aa335 wrote:
  What is the function of those springs?

Now I definitely want to get my hands on one.  .

Anyone guess on why Toro stopped making these after a few years?  Is it the cost?


The springs are there for keeping the tension on the wheel kit when you collapse them as you could see in the pics. There is a hook up in there behind the bracket to hold the wheels in the collapsed position and as you can see the springs give it the tension.I'll try to do a video on the movement of the wheel kit but will need the kids to help me with the posting.I would tend to say that Toro had more problems with customers not being able to maintain these things than it was worth or perhaps the electric option was born at that time and figured it was a much more consumer friendly way to go.

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #27   Dec 7, 2010 2:33 pm
"Select the text you want to link the http path to.  At the toolbar, select the Insert/Edit Link button.  A dialog box will appear, paste your link into the URL form, then press the OK button.

Right mouse click on the underlined link that was created and select Edit Link.  You will see the same dialog box again, but this time, the URL box will have some jibberish such as "javascript *(*&* "  .   Recopy the link into that box again and hit OK. "



Thanks for the instructions but I'm still having problems.  I hit a brick wall at:  " Right mouse click on the underlined link that was created and select Edit Link."

 I can past the link into the field but I don't get an underlined link and I don't get a drop down menu with an "edit link" option.  All I get is the Firefox "Edit" drop down menu.    This is the only site that I have this kind of problem with.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #28   Dec 7, 2010 2:42 pm
I'm currently on a PC now so things may not be exactly the same on the Mac as I described.  I'll try it later with the Mac and walk you through it.   
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Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #29   Dec 7, 2010 3:13 pm
I tried all kinds of things to get links working and never was able to.

About a week later I simply pasted a link as text into a post and it showed as a hyperlink.
Now they quit doing it again.

Pictures seem the same way, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #30   Dec 7, 2010 4:12 pm
Yeah.... Inconsistency is a major p.i.t.a.  That's for sure. 

I don't have problems with images,  just links.


For those who like two strokes, check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaL4m0quPIA&feature=related

Not much snow being moved but something to see nonetheless.
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hirschallan


If it aint broke don't fix it !!


Location: Northern Hills of NY
Joined: Aug 25, 2005
Points: 327

Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #31   Dec 7, 2010 6:34 pm
Borat, If you can be so kind to send me a pic of the gas cap from your machine (inside view). I have a feeling I'm missing the inside portion of it and it leaks. It just doesn't look right to me. Thanks,Allan

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #32   Dec 7, 2010 6:57 pm
hirschallan wrote:
Borat, If you can be so kind to send me a pic of the gas cap from your machine (inside view). I have a feeling I'm missing the inside portion of it and it leaks. It just doesn't look right to me. Thanks,Allan

Mine was defective also.  A picture won't help because I modified it.  The problem is that there should be a little check valve inside the cap.  Mine was missing.  I tried to make a check valve and it was partially effective but not perfect.   If you look at the cap, there are two vent holes.   On my machine, one hole ends up at the top and one at the bottom when the cap is screwed on tightly.  I blocked off the bottom hole with a plug and I don't get any seepage now. 

By the way, new caps are available at Partstree.com for less than $10.00.
aviator411


Joined: Dec 14, 2010
Points: 3

Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #33   Dec 14, 2010 1:00 am
I have one of these 38350 models that I bought new back in the '80s. Haven't used it for a number of years and can't get it started. Never stored it w fuel in the tank so should be able to rule out fuel problems; I put in fresh fuel. Haven't opened it up yet. Can anyone tell me if I'll be able to try starting it once I open up the housing or will I have to put it all back together each time I want to try to start it. Anyone know if there are any free downloadable service manuals on this machine. Still looking for one. With small gas-powered machines the problem is almost always in the carburetor or fuel system; that's where I'll look first, plug also of course but have never seen a bad plug in a small gas engine; it's almost always carburetor/fuel problems. This machine served me well, never had any problems with it. Probably haven't used it for over 5 years. When I moved to the country many years ago I bought a Ford farm tractor with 5' rear mount snow blower so haven't used the Toro much since then. It would come in handy around doors etc. if I can get it running. I am aware of the diagrams on Partstree.com. Would be nice to find a service manual though.
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Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #34   Dec 14, 2010 5:02 am
https://homeownersolutions.toro.com/portal/server.pt/community/product_center/225
trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: 1983 Toro Power Shovel Anyone ever use or own one?
Reply #35   Dec 14, 2010 9:25 am
Borat:  What might be an alternate to the shovel is a small Toro PowerLite.  There are 3 and 3.5hp versions, small, rubber auger, have wheels and are fun to use.  They toss 25 feet and can move watery slush or water very well.  Around here they can be had for $20 to $50 almost always with plugged carbs.
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