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The Air Storm HEPA Vacuum Cleaners Are Far Better Then All Other Brands! (Read 248 times)
Barry
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The Air Storm HEPA Vacuum Cleaners Are Far Better Then All Other Brands!
02/09/01 at 10:22pm
Barry here of Absolute Air Cleaners And Allergy Products. Through the years we have sold both the Miele and Nilfisk HEPA vacuum cleaner brands. We thought that they were the best. Boy were we wrong ! We saw a smoke-dye test performed on these two brands and on about 10 other brands. You could see the smoke pour out of every crack and crevice on all of the vacuum cleaners that were in the test.This showed us that even though these other vacuums had HEPA filters in them, the HEPA filters and the cases were NOT SEALED! Only the AIR STORM , did not leak any smoke-dye. After we tested the AIR STORM we found it to be much more powerful and user friendly then any other vacuum cleaner that we have ever sold, tried or tested. There is no question that the AIR STORM will out clean all other brands of vacuum cleaners, both HEPA and NON HEPA types. For more INFO Check out our website or call us anytime Toll Free At 1-888-578-7324
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Bruce
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Re:The Air Storm HEPA Vacuum Cleaners Are "NOT" Better Then All Other Brands!
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02/12/01 at 6:40am
I seriously doubt what you're telling the public is true.... especially regarding the better Miele canisters (S658) series. How about some independent lab tests results? I've looked at the Air Storm and Patriot and just because they weigh more does not mean the're a better machine. And regarding "user friendly" how can you say the Air Storm is easier when you have to fiddle with plugging in the electrified hose. The Miele is a simple click, snap and you're cleaning, with absolutely NO exposed electrical wires or plugs showing in addition to truly 360 degree rotation at "both" ends of the hose. Can the Air Storm beat that?
As far as power, we all should know that cubic feet per minute (CFM) is what really counts in the cleaning ability of a vacuum. Does the Air Storm have 140 cfm's of cleaning power like the Miele? Now lets tell the truth to the general public
.... not just "Salesman" hipe.
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Bruce
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Smoke Dye Test ???
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02/14/01 at 6:17am
And who vacuums their house when it's burning down ??
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Barry Cohen
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Re:Re:The Air Storm HEPA Vacuum Cleaners Are "NOT" Better Then All Other Brands!
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02/14/01 at 6:50am
Hello Bruce, Barry here of <a href="http://www.aircleaners.com.">http://www.aircleaners.com.</a> I am not picking on Miele.This test was run on many other brands of HEPA vacuum cleaners as well. I was a Miele dealer for many years. Go ahead and run the test yourself. Suck a large volume of smoke into your Miele unit for 30 seconds and see the smoke pour out of the unit.If smoke particles can be seen pouring out of any given brand of HEPA vac when this test is done, it is obvious that almost any contaminate that is carried within the fine dust that can escape out of the unit will also be blown back into the environment.Smoke particals are larger then 0.3 microns. If you run a good volume of smoke through any brand of HEPA vacuum cleaner and the smoke pours out of the unit, it is obvious that the unit is not sealed properly and air is finding the easiest route of resistance around the units filtration system and case. Many Types Of Bacteria And Fungus are present in most household dust. If its blowing out of the units case, its blowing back into the indoor environment. If you want to purchase one of our Air Storms so you can test it as well? I would be happy to sell you one. Im glad that you feel that you must stand by the products that you believe in. I feel the the same way about the Air Storm. Since I was a Miele dealer, I now feel even stronger then ever that the Air Storm is superior in every way including the customer's future operating costs and the sturdy design of the Air Storm units sealed case. Compare the cost of the Miele's Once to twice a year HEPA filter replacement cost with the cost of the three year HEPA filter of the Air Storm. Compare the Cost difference of the dust collector bags in both units. I threw my Miele Medi Vac into the trash after I purchased our first Air Storm. Also Please do not miss- quote my statement. I never mentioned the Miele model s658 or any other individual other model in my websites report. Instead of being so upset, arrogant and negative, mabe you should do the smart thing and try one of our Air Storms out for yourself like we did. If you are a honest and smart person and or businessman you would most likely soon be in agreement with me that the Air Storm is the best HEPA vacuum cleaner on the market. Best wishes, Barry
Related link: <a href="http://www.aircleaners.com">Air Storm HEPA Vacuum Cleaners Air The Best On The Market !!!</a>
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Barry Cohen
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Re:Smoke Dye Test ???
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02/14/01 at 7:09am
Smoke is used to test all kinds of filter and air cleaning systems for leaks. The use of smoke and smoke dye is a standard way of testing in the indoor air quality industry. If you can see smoke particals blowing out of a HEPA vacuum cleaner then you can take it to the bank that that model of vacuum cleaner is also blowing dust out of the unit as well. A quality HEPA vacuum cleaner such as the Air Storm HEPA vac will not blow the smoke dye of the unit at all. This shows that the Air Storms case and HEPA filter is truley sealed. We have yet to see another brand of Vacuum cleaner pass this test.Your house burning down statement only shows that you do not understand how air flow testing is done and that mabe you have a problem with people that may have and sell products that are of better quality then yours are. Before you act out in this child like manor of yours, mabe you should purchase a Air Storm And See How Great They Work For Yourself.
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Bruce
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The Air Storm HEPA Vacuum Cleaner is REALLY NOT the best on the market !
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02/15/01 at 12:21am
Hi Barry. As I thought, you didn't disclose accurate information to the public, only information that makes your product "appear" better than any manufacturers product on this planet. If one thinks about it, the Air Storm can not possibly be the "best HEPA vacuum cleaner on the market" as you quoted above. The technology of this machine is outdated, along with the patents for it. It is not user friendly to use and connect the hose and wands. The dust collector bag is the open design, allowing particulates to escape when changing it. I'm sorry that you "threw" your Miele Medi Vac in the trash. Seems to be selfish when you could have donated it to someone less fortunate than you.
Just wanted to clear a few things up that you mentioned on your previous posting. Smoke particle size begins at .01 microns and increased to over 1 micron. Seems pretty convenient of you to indicate smoke particle size starts at above .3 microns , the same size quoted in rating true H.E.P.A. filtration performance. And lets not forget to mention what you stated above about the H.E.P.A. filter costs. The filter for the Air Storm sells for $149.00 or higher and is suppose to last for maybe three (3) years. The H.E.P.A. filters on a Lindhaus and Miele cost anywhere from $39.00 to $49.00 and last around 1 (year). If my math is correct, 3 x 49 = $147.00. To me, I'd rather replace the filter every year with a fresh one, rather than wait three years. The Air Storm CFM rating starts out at around 100 CFM with the filter being new. What do you think the performance of the filter is going to be by the end of the third year? The Lindhaus canister starts out at 130 and the Miele at 140 CFM. Even when it's time to replace their filters, the air flow will be much higher than the Air Storm could ever be. Again, you neglected to tell everyone the truth of the matter and made it appear the Miele's filter is overpriced.
Regarding the smoke-dye test, I tested three different vacuums I have. The Lindhaus HF6 (a strong vacuum but not very user-friendly), the Sears top-of-the-line Progressive Canister and the Miele S658. I performed the smoke test for over 1 minute. The Sears leaked very little smoke, which really surprised me because it is not rated H.E.P.A., but the Lindhaus and Miele leaked absolutely "nothing". The test was conducted with very bright halogen lighting in the room and no trace of leakage was seen at any time.
It is unfortunate that salespeople continue to mislead the public and sway them into purchasing what "they" think "will out clean all other brands of vacuum cleaners", and "the best HEPA vacuum cleaner on the market" claims they make. These claims are rediculous and false. Be skeptical of the salesperson that tells you their machine is the only and best machine for you.
I have never sold vacuums nor intend to ever sell them. I am not affiliated with any company or manufacturer that produces vacuums. This forum is really a great tool for people that are interested in obtaining impartial information not coming from a salesperson. People want information coming from the end user of the equipment. I believe most people can easily spot the salesperson and all the selling hipe that goes along with them. That's why I think this forum is great. With a little reseach, one can easily purchase the right quality vacuum for the right price, without the distraction and pressure of a saleperson.
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Bernie
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Re:Re:Smoke Dye Test ???
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02/15/01 at 2:20am
About your smoke and die test.This is a commonly used "test" among sales people only,not an industry standard.It is very visual and therefore very impressive looking, but it is not a very good test.Most descent machines will pass it easily.The method used for air quality is a particle count.This is where air samples are taken and sent thru ultra fine filters and the approximate number of particles in the air are counted/estimated. A warning about HEPA filters. A HEPA filter is a material that has been tested to trap fine particles.However this test is for an air flow rate that is about 10% to 15% of the airflow of a vacuum cleaner, and does not mean that it will be just as good at the flow rates in the vacuum cleaner.As the flow rate increases the pressure inside the vacuum rises and causes air to leak out before it ever reaches the HEPA filter.On a vacuum cleaner with a HEPA filter it is important to look for as large a filter area as possible...the larger the filter area,the more room for air to flow thru it. One final word about miele vacuums.Yes they can leak air,but this is usually after several years of use,and often because the filters are not changed in a timely matter.Miele has recently been claiming it is the first "HEPA VACUUM CLEANER".I don't know where they get this claim from or who "tested" them,so be careful,it is more likely to be hype than truth!
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Barry
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02/15/01 at 5:20am
Hi Bernie. Barry here . Your almost correct in your post. Yes The Laser
Partical Counter Is The Best Test. The Air Storm Passed the test with flying colors. No Emmissions above 0.3 microns at 99.97% other then clean, clear air would pass through the Very Large HEPA filter that fits into the back of the Air Storm. Check out the size of the Air Storms HEPA filter on our website at <a href="http://www.aircleaners.com">http://www.aircleaners.com</a> . The Air Storm's HUGE Certified HEPA Filter is rated at 1000 Square inches. Much larger then the skimpy HEPA filter in the Miele and in the other HEPA vac's that are now on the market.The large size of the HEPA filter allows the Air Storm to really crank out the power, giving it a great edge over the other brands that are on the market. The Air Storm's HEPA air filter lasts much longer { Three Years } and costs much less money to maintain then the other units that are on the market. As far as the smoke test goes, your wrong here. Only the Air Storm has passed this test with flying colors. The All of the other vacuum cleaners that were tested including the Miele leaked like hell. You could plainly see the smoke pouring out of these other vacuum cleaners.You could see it gushing out of the back of the units just after their HEPA filters and out of the cases on all of the other units. I can assure you that new or used, these other brands of vacuum cleaners will never pass the smoke-Dye test unless they are redesigned in a major way. Believe it or not they really do leak quite a bit of air because they are not sealed in a proper manor. The Air Storm Is Sealed Like A Steel Drum ! ZERO LEAKS! As far as the Miele claims go, I wouldn't trust their word as far as I could throw them ! We used to be a Miele dealer for many years, until they proved to be a self centered company of low ethics to us.
Related link: <a href="http://www.aircleaners.com">Air Storm HEPA Vacuum Cleaners Are The Best On The Market !</a>
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Barry
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Re:The Air Storm HEPA Vacuum Cleaner is REALLY NOT the best on the market !
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02/15/01 at 5:51am
Bruce you act just like a little cry baby child that broke his toy. You Also make up lies as you attempt to discredit our honest company. I would like everyone on this forum to know that you have been sending many crazy personal E-Mails to me because your a person of low ethics and you are so disturbed in the head, you cant keep your attacks and crazy actions in this forum for all of the others to see. I will not answer your E-mails and I request that they stop or I will take action, by going to your ISP.I have saved all of your E-Mails in a file named Bruce the nut case. You are making yourself look like a total fool in here as it is. Try reading Bernie's posts and learn how to act like a decent,normal guy. Its ok to disagree with others in this forum. That's what forums are for. Its not ok to act like a ranting nut case just because you do not agree with other people's posts !
Related link: <a href="http://www.aircleaners.com">Air Storm HEPA Air Cleaners Are The Best On The Market !</a>
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Bruce
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Sales Hype to the end....
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02/15/01 at 7:00am
Hi Barry. I invite you and everyone else to read my posts and then decide who's the "nut case" and who's being truthful. For you to state that the Miele corporation and/or agents thereof are unethical, is quite a bold statement to be making. Does this sound rational? Even if one knows very little about this technology, common sense will lead them in the right direction.
The Air Storm is obviously right for some people.... but not the majority. To make the claims that this is the "best" machine on the market, the most user-friendly machine, and that it outperforms "all others", are totally irrational, rediculous and false statements that reek of ignorance. Anyone reading statements like these, have to agree! Remember, the truth and common sense will always prevail in the end.
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