Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

New lightweight with OBT in town for $250 with free bags for life and zero cost maintenance warranty for life.  Anything goes wrong, a new vacuun is shipped to you.  

http://www.garryvac.com/

Taking a page from ORECK on the giveaways:  Free Steam Mop to keep if not satisfied with purchase and returned.

https://www.garryvacuum.com/order_form.html?country=CA

Comments?

Carmine D.

retardturtle1 wrote:

Hello retardturtle1:

The government moves by its own momentum often times slow, slower and slowest.  With the G-vac just months on the market, it hasn't reached enough people to get on the radar screens. 

BTW, no call from ORECK on the Steam It!  May stop by next week to see what gives on its ETA and talk G-vac.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

The ORECK sales [Silver Series upright solo for $225] are advertised on TV too and have been extended through June 30, 2009.  Judy ORECK is the TV ads' sales pitcher.

Carmine D.

Carmine,

By what relations...  who is she?

Thanks,
DIB

cjnyusa wrote:
Hi cjnyusa,

The whole deal here is that the public is being yet again titilated with another "opportunity" to get something for nothing -- or in this case, allegedly a lot by way of lesser price. I have a great love of fantasy-type movies but can't afford myself the indulgence in the real world.

There are those prepared to make do off cheap buys and there are those who hold off on buying until they can purchase what they perceive as something "good". Something like a trade-offs made daily on HSN for a cubic zurconium over a diamond. However, what ranks as a real diamond is sometimes not easy to tell in regard to vacuums.

This just me but if somone were to walk up to me and say, "Just give me 200 buck and I'll give ya and give ya and give ya . . ." I'd be highly skeptical. First if you offer me a vacuum for $200.00 and then tell me that no matter what happens you'll replace it and keep on replacing it for life, my first thought is that it probably only cost you all of 15 bucks to make it in the first place. AND -- if I estimate the actual cost of manufacture being that low, why would I pay you 200 bucks?

The Garry is nothing new. Though the big kid is Oreck, there are at least half a dozen other low-watt draw lightwieght uprights besides the Garry with large disposable bags on the market. They all offer uncomplicated abbreviated air paths, a good thing, and all are more or less noisy no matter how much you pay for one, not good thing.

Garry offers a lot but there is no guarantee how long the company will be in existence. It being that the intenet has actually changed our world by lessening the cost of the exposure ideas, opinions and product, I'm sure we'll be seeing a lot more of the same everywhere and for everything. As I posted earlier, if budget concerns were a real issue (and they are) I'd spring for a 99-buck Halo and make do for the next few years. Even if the machine fails in a year's time only a hundred bucks and sales tax has been lost.

Vacuums run the gamut from the overrated and expensive to the cheap toss-away but the best bets are those that fall at the "happy medium" mark.

Venson

Venson wrote:

Hello Venson:

I excerpted this comment from your post.  Surprisingly none of the lightweights, even ORECK, offer the tools on board like Garry.  I opined due to the small motor these direct suction fan first models utilize.  The small motors don't deliver enough umph for tool suction cleaning.  But, I have to verify that by actual usage with the Garry.  ORECK should have a G-vac in their stores to show propective buyers who ask about the G-vac the differences.   Perhaps the ORECK stores will.  Have to wait and see.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Howdy Carmine,

My gut feeling is that Oreck needn't bother . . .

I am well aware of the Garry's tools but decided not even to bother pursuing what I see as so very much a non-issue in this case. My opinion is basically the same as yours -- the tools are doo-dads of little value. Thus, no miracle expected -- no miracle found. Oreck probably stands all that much the wiser for not bothering to add a tool set to its uprights. The company has its fans as is so why muck up a thus far perfectly good relationship with happy campers?

A few days back, I had to make a run into town to Lincoln Center. I decided to get off one station past my stop so I might learn if Oreck still had its "Clean Home Center" at 2003 Broadway. To my surprise the store is still there, great big window and all, and there was a customer or two inside. The uprights and the little portable schmutz collector were of course on hand but there was also a heater of some sort and the air cleaner on display. Broadway is pretty expensive and prized real estate even these days and by that at least I am impressed. However nothing much else drew my attention.

Online Oreck has been busy nonetheless. The company seems to have adopted a small bagless (pleated filter) canister vac formerly under the McColloch brand and renamed it the Oreck XL Little Hero Canister Vacuum Cleaner. The price is about a $170.00. This is now the least-priced small can vac on the Oreck roster. The little "Iron Man" portable, formerly sold by Sears way, way back, lists at $299.00. No comment on my part here except to say, it's nice work if you can get it.

http://www.oreck.com/canister-vacuum-cleaners/little-hero.cfm

Best,

Venson

Venson wrote:

hi venson

it seems with the g-vac xposed ...the only real threat i see to oreck is the riccar rsl series....and ive yet to see a direct air motor with tool suction worth a flip....that bagless can looks one of those royals that was sent to the shop for free.....we had it abt 2 weeks for around the shop use then..caput!...but i never really thought oreck would waste time on a bagless..or stand by one ...just seems outside the box for a company that makes really good vacuums...bagged vacuums.

retardturtle1 wrote:
Hi retardturtle1,

I do not see the Garry vac as being "exposed" but simply see it for what it is -- a cheap deal. You're buying into a machine supposedly as good as the expensive brand that many people feel is "it". You're also buying into a lot of promises regarding repair and endless disposable bag supply.

This is not an uncommon possibility as American enterprise, like air, abhors a vacuum. If it can't hook you into buying by way of inflated price and/or snob appeal it's more than willing and adept at doing an about face to feign empathy for the shopper with a challenged budget. Why do you think "Deluxe," "Standard" and "Economy" models have been made available for just about every device sold here all these years?

We are probably one of the few countries in the world where even the poorest among us can easily anticipate the purchase of a color TV. Why? 'Cause there's always a guy around to make sure their dough as does not get passed by. Albeit not as quickly, the nickels and dimes add up the same as folding money does.

As for Oreck, it is not the first company to acquire outsourced models to beef up its line. However, what is curious to me is how short the public memory is. The Oreck "Hero Vac" could be had for around 60 bucks a couple of years back under other names. What's to be discovered here is whether the same machine will sell any better with a new name and a higher price.

As mentioned prior by good friend MOLE, the general public is not worried over cyclones and all that stuff. They just want to feel assured that the vac they buy will operate well and without problem. Nonetheless, "bagless" does ring a bell because it implies there's less or maybe no money to be spent on maintenance. The "Hero Vac" -- somebody correct me if I'm wrong -- will be Oreck's first venture regarding bagless product. I assume the idea is to see whether it flies before they venture ahead. Here's a link to a similar model out of China:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/217516828/J302_Vacuum_Cleaner/showimage.html

Venson

Venson wrote:

HI VENSON

i always saw ORECK as a  easy to work on simple to use low maint very durable type of vacuum ...im aware they have outsourced some vacs...not sure witch ones....as we dont get them in often for repairs...just a full service clean up most of the time...but here lately ive seen quite a few in for lock-ups--- bearing failure..heat? been curious tho. ..and for ORECK to go into bagless area  with  the higher  maint,,far less reliable problematic system ....instead of  a bagless can -why not lower  the price of your  already awsome line-up and put the ORECK   in reach of those that couldnt normally afford a new one and increase sales in that once unreachable[bad credit-cash and carry loyal to thier product] market....beefing up the lower end..so to speak. and its a very large market.....they know the ORECK name and quality...and want it ....just out of reach tho.

retardturtle1 wrote:
Hi retardturtle1,

The large and mid-size Dutch-Tech" bagged canisters which use Wessel Werks PNs are from Philips, a European manufacturer that made household vacuums for quite some time and then left off. The "Iron Man" -- origin unknown to me -- is a vacuum that Sears sold as far back as the late 1960s. I can't quote the exact time but it disappeared for a time and then reappeared under the Oreck name.

By the way, the "Steam-It" can now be found at the Oreck website -- http://www.oreck.com

Venson