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Oreck/ XL 21
Original Message   Jan 19, 2008 9:54 am
How can Mr Oreck,offer a 21 year warranty ,this must be one hell of a product

MOLE

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Oreck/ XL 21
Reply #40   Jan 29, 2008 8:34 pm
DC18 wrote:
they are getting and giving better performance!

DC18



Really?  The DC18, for which you are named, is the the latest dyson upright on the US market and the worse rated of all the dysons according to Consumer Reports.  So......... at least one sanctioned industry source, widely used and viewed as an authoritative consumer buying guide, would contradict your statement.

Carmine D.

DC18


Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user

Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 294

Re: Oreck/ XL 21
Reply #41   Jan 29, 2008 8:37 pm
So if Dyson wouldn't fare very well in comparison with Oreck why does Oreck think different!  Surely it a 2 way thing!  Dyson doesn't purely because it is 'different', nothing is the same as Dyson!

DC18

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Oreck/ XL 21
Reply #42   Jan 29, 2008 8:38 pm
Motorhead wrote:
Hi DC18, 

No one can ignore its success [dyson] in the (almost) 6 years it has been in the US.

-MH



And no one can ignore Oreck's success in over 45 plus years in the US vacuum market. 

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Oreck/ XL 21
Reply #43   Jan 29, 2008 8:42 pm
DC18 wrote:
Hi Motorhead

  If the Oreck technology is so great then as I've said already the product will sell itself there is no need to make comprision to a specific machine which really is not a like for like model/setup!!

I take it MH you don't like the mini Oreck canister then!?

DC18


If longevity is one indication of greatness[ read success], then 45 plus years of Oreck sales in the USA with over 450 Oreck Clean Home Centers and even more independent authorized Oreck sales and service dealers must count for something more than just product bashing.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Oreck/ XL 21
Reply #44   Jan 29, 2008 8:49 pm
DC18 wrote:
DC06 as it was known, Dyson robotic vacuum has never made it to the market.  They are still working on this technology I believe. 

DC18



With 500 engineers and 20 plus years of dyson vacuum history, dyson can't rush these robotic products to market. 

Might I dare suggest that if dyson focused on vacuums rather than a plethora of unrelated ill-fated mediocre products that compete for its time and resources, dyson would have had a robotic vacuum to the market by now.  Or... is that conclusion and statement of fact considered 'bashing" by dyson? 

Carmine D.

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DC18


Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user

Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 294

Re: Oreck/ XL 21
Reply #45   Jan 29, 2008 8:50 pm
I don't need to be 'sucked' (excuse the pun!) into these consumer reports be it US or UK or world wide.  I'm not a 'sheep' that follows everyone else and reads these reports and like alot of people take it as it reads.  I make my own mind up about things by actually using the product, and word of mouth.  These so called consumer tests as far as I'm concerned are not carried out in the so called 'real' world.  People should make up their own minds by testing it for themselves!

I've used a DC18 in the UK and there is nothing wrong with it's performance and that goes for the DC15 too!  More is not always best was it not said on here!  As the Oreck has a 457 watt motor everyone seems to think that the performance of this machine is great!!!!

DC18

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Oreck/ XL 21
Reply #46   Jan 29, 2008 8:55 pm
DC18 wrote:
I don't need to be 'sucked' (excuse the pun!) into these consumer reports be it US or UK or world wide.  I'm not a 'sheep' that follows everyone else and reads these reports and like alot of people take it as it reads.  I make my own mind up about things by actually using the product, and word of mouth.  These so called consumer tests as far as I'm concerned are not carried out in the so called 'real' world.  People should make up their own minds by testing it for themselves!

I've used a DC18 in the UK and there is nothing wrong with it's performance and that goes for the DC15 too!  More is not always best was it not said on here!  As the Oreck has a 457 watt motor everyone seems to think that the performance of this machine is great!!!!

DC18


As you said, I bought the Oreck and use it daily.  I made up my mind for myself.  I like it, use it, recommend it and will continue to do so.  And it just so happens, that Consumer Reports does too.  At least more so than most all the dysons.  45 plus years of sales history is a huge selling point for consumer satisfaction too.  Wouldn't you say?  Especially in commercial use by hotels and motels. 

Carmine D.

DC18


Dyson, Sebo and Bissell user

Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 294

Re: Oreck/ XL 21
Reply #47   Jan 29, 2008 8:55 pm
I think your forgetting Dyson invents new technology not repackaging old technology and is constantly working on new technology where it comes to anything is a different matter. That is what makes Dyson different.  Also people think that all 500 Engineers are working on just vacuums and in particular one vacuum. These Engineers are working on serveral projects and I would have thought not just vacuum cleaners either! 

DC18

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Oreck/ XL 21
Reply #48   Jan 29, 2008 9:02 pm
DC18 wrote:
all 500 Engineers are working on just vacuums and in particular one vacuum. These Engineers are working on serveral projects and I would have thought not just vacuum cleaners either! 

DC18



That's my point.  Scatter your time, money, effort and resources for years in too many different unrelated products and what do you get?  Mediocre and unsuccessful product results.  And not one signature product in any.   

Oreck on the other hand focused its time and attention on one product: Lightweight Vacuums.  And has been extremely successful.  And branched out into other venues.  Including a decent air purifier.  Simply amazing!

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Oreck/ XL 21
Reply #49   Jan 29, 2008 9:08 pm
DC18 wrote:
So if Dyson wouldn't fare very well in comparison with Oreck why does Oreck think different!  Surely it a 2 way thing!  Dyson doesn't purely because it is 'different', nothing is the same as Dyson!

DC18



Oreck believes that it has a better vacuum than dyson and wants others to know why.  If you believe in your product and are willing to match it up against the competition head to head, why not?  What's wrong with doing so if you are honest and accurate in your methods and means?  Let consumers decide for themselves what is the best vacuum for them based on all the facts. 

Carmine D.

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