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royster


" It is the use of power tools that separates man from animals"

Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Joined: Feb 11, 2011
Points: 284

Time for a new lawnmower?
Original Message   Apr 1, 2011 12:41 pm
I purchased my lawnmower  May 12 , 1998 , so it is about 13 years old. It is a Craftsman 944.368300  s/n 010 998m 000270 It is powered by a Tecumseh VLV066  6.75 horsepower engine             No, I am not taking any pictures of the old thing.

21 inch cut,  , front wheel drive, has no throttle. starts wide open. I have had no problems with this mower  except maintenance required replacing the (always spinning ) front wheels twice. They are around $60  each at Sears , but I got  2 for $12    on e-bay ,twice. I have changed the oil every year, use the Craftsman 30 oil. and have changed the sparkplug  a few times.

I have been looking at some the new offerings and would like to  have an opinion on front or rear wheel drive. I've never used a rwd .

I looked at a Troy built at Can Tire yesterday.  It is rwd , has large rear  wheels, a Honda 160 cc engine,  Electric start with a battery on board, all 4 wheels can be adjusted for cutting height with  one control lever.   I think it is 21 inch , has left and right control levers to adjust ground speed.     It is priced at $599.99    I will get them  to move it down from the rack , the next time that I am in the store, so I can get a better look at it.     Sears are just getting in their new models  so will look at them soon.

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royster


" It is the use of power tools that separates man from animals"

Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Joined: Feb 11, 2011
Points: 284

Re: Time for a new lawnmower?
Reply #5   Apr 1, 2011 8:25 pm
borat wrote:
Why spend that kind of money for a new machine when many decent used mowers are available on Kijiji? 

You can get a very good mower for 1/4 the price of new.  RWD is the way to go. 

I have an expensive 2 cycle Echo lawn mower with rear wheel drive, bagger, controlled throttle.  Great mower but heavy for trimming around the yard.  That mower cost $700.00 twenty years ago.  It has been relegated as my "stand by" mower now.   Last year, I bought a very well used 1973 Lawn Boy mower with rear wheel drive, magnesium deck and very healthy two cycle engine.   It's as light as a feather and as strong as the Echo.  It starts on first or second pull every time.  That is now my mower of choice.  I bought it on Kijiji for ......... wait for it......... $75.00!!.    The guy I bought it off of has two more just like it but disassembled.  I'll be picking them up in a few weeks to keep for parts.   Not likely that I'll be needing them anytime soon.  Those old Lawn Boys are some of the best lawn mowers ever built.

What are the advantages of rear wheel drive on a lawn mower

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Time for a new lawnmower?
Reply #6   Apr 1, 2011 8:33 pm
The bag is usually on the rear of the mower.  The weight of the grass in the bag enhances traction of the rear wheels where it would reduce traction on front wheel drives.

By the way, here's a link for two beautiful Lawn Boy mowers in  Shediac New Brunswick.   The one on the right look like the one I have but without self propulsion.   For $50.00 each, I'd scoop them both up!!


http://newbrunswick.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-tools-equipment-lawn-mower-for-sale-W0QQAdIdZ270474203
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MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Time for a new lawnmower?
Reply #7   Apr 1, 2011 9:35 pm
I have a feeling "royster" has a sophisticated taste and may not like those suggested by borat (who loves to collect vintage OPEs).  But by looking at royster's taste for a fine snowblower, he just may go for a hydrostatic lawnmower. I like buying new OPEs since I enjoy becoming intimate with them.  May I suggest a red hydrostatic lawnmower to match your red snowblower. 
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Time for a new lawnmower?
Reply #8   Apr 1, 2011 10:18 pm
MN_Runner wrote:
I have a feeling "royster" has a sophisticated taste and may not like those suggested by borat (who loves to collect vintage OPEs).  But by looking at royster's taste for a fine snowblower, he just may go for a hydrostatic lawnmower. I like buying new OPEs since I enjoy becoming intimate with them.  May I suggest a red hydrostatic lawnmower to match your red snowblower. 

Call them vintage if you like.  Regardless, they're still among the best lawn mowers made.   I have another relatively modern self propelled mower that I have retired since acquiring the old Lawn Boy.   Don't be fooled by the appearance.  A little cleaning and a fresh coat of green paint will appease the cosmetically inclined.   Thereafter, the proud owner will have one fine mower! 
royster


" It is the use of power tools that separates man from animals"

Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Joined: Feb 11, 2011
Points: 284

Re: Time for a new lawnmower?
Reply #9   Apr 2, 2011 8:38 am
MN_Runner wrote:
I have a feeling "royster" has a sophisticated taste and may not like those suggested by borat (who loves to collect vintage OPEs).  But by looking at royster's taste for a fine snowblower, he just may go for a hydrostatic lawnmower. I like buying new OPEs since I enjoy becoming intimate with them.  May I suggest a red hydrostatic lawnmower to match your red snowblower. 


Thanks,   It would be  best that I do not use the " h" word for a while ! ! !
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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Time for a new lawnmower?
Reply #10   Apr 2, 2011 10:02 am
Some of the best mowers that i know of are the vintage ones from the 1980's.  They were cast aluminum or magnesium decks with solid mechanical.  The Honda Master HR14 and the John Deere 14SB, 14PZ were my favorites.  The engines were very tolerant of abuse and not as sensitive to bad fuel as today's "Made for California" machines.  I like that they were lightweight, compact, felt solid, and very maneuverable.  My old time favorite was the Deere 14PZ mower, simple push mower with very little to break.  It was fairly light so self propelled was not necessary.  In fact, I prefer non self propelled mower for trimming.

I haven't used Lawnboy 2 stroke mowers, but there's a lot of good things said about them.  Vintage or not, good solid design is timeless.  Too bad Lawnboy name of recent has eroded due to corporate take overs and EPA pressures.  Although I like Toro products overall, I don't much care for the Toro clones Lawnboy machines.  They were supposed to the Toro's premiere line but that didn't last.

If a person is an OPE fanatic, it's more appealing to pick up a vintage mower and bring it back to life than to buy the disposable paper thin stamped deck variety of modern budget mowers, they're functional machines without soul.  Because of this, its very easy for owners to ditch them when they start behaving badly.
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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Time for a new lawnmower?
Reply #11   Apr 2, 2011 10:04 am
royster wrote:
Thanks,   It would be  best that I do not use the " h" word for a while ! ! !

Amen.
friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
Joined: Apr 12, 2008
Points: 600

Re: Time for a new lawnmower?
Reply #12   Apr 2, 2011 5:23 pm
The old Lawnboy engines were great,  Since Toro bought them they have been getting farther away from their roots...  

In the 90"s Lawnboy had a nice 2 stoke commercial with a 5 1/2 hp 2 cycle motor. 

 I was always liked of the ones that had the Rear bagger kit on them that went through the deck, and the muffler that exited by the blade.  (every once and awhile someones muffler would get loose and get hit by the blade or catch dry grass on fire)

Also Lawnboy supplied a dive/ snorkle company with engines for a floating air compressor  for snorkling..

Hey Borat-  does yours have the plastic engine shroud or the stamped steel? 

Friiy

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Time for a new lawnmower?
Reply #13   Apr 2, 2011 9:34 pm
It's got the white plastic cover. 

I've got two more Lawn Boy mowers to pick up yet.  Not sure of the condition but they looked not too bad.  Won't know for sure until I get them home.   
royster


" It is the use of power tools that separates man from animals"

Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Joined: Feb 11, 2011
Points: 284

Re: Time for a new lawnmower?
Reply #14   Apr 3, 2011 11:41 am
I am sure that these vintage lawn mowers are interesting and there were  many good lawnmowers  among them, but I am in the market for a new self propelled walk behind lawnmower

And  I am looking for recommendations, if possible.

Is rear wheel drive better? I have only had fwd .

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