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Garandman


Location: South Boston, MA
Joined: Mar 10, 2005
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Honda GX200 Clone engines?
Original Message   Apr 10, 2005 7:42 am
I was surprised to see that there are several different clones (presumably Chines) of the Honda GX200. Oddly, some seem to sell for about the same price as price as a replacement Honda, although others are much less - about half. The various folks selling them claim parts are interchangable with the Honda.

Are these any good? I don' think "You get what you pay or" has been suspended, but  China does have very low labor rates and we are talking small engines, not satellites. The one owner I talked to bought one for a generator - $160 delivered - and he said it started on the second pull and seems to perform fine. 
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MissSnowshoveler


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Location: NS
Joined: Feb 5, 2005
Points: 706

Re: Honda GX200 Clone engines?
Reply #11   Apr 11, 2005 5:36 am
These engines are as quiet.  The boss has had one on his woodsplitter since last year.  No big deal, but we rent it out.  I've figured out that it has probably has split 500 - 700 cord of wood.  Everyone that has used it has said that they can't tell the difference other then the decal.

In the cold weather it would start on the first pull, were as the brand new Honda needed some coaxing.

I've seen them both tore sown to nothing a bench beside each other.  Took internals and placed them in both engines.  Fits are as good as any.

Sherri

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Garandman


Location: South Boston, MA
Joined: Mar 10, 2005
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Re: Honda GX200 Clone engines?
Reply #12   Apr 11, 2005 5:40 am
 Material properties could be worse, or better. And the manufacturing toleances could be worse, or better. As the Japanese have very good in-process quality control, one could assume the clones are worse. The Chinese have also cloned a wide variety of U.S. firearms, from  old Winchester pump shotguns to the civilian version of the M14. In general, the steel used was pretty good, but some of the internal tolerances weren't optimal. But making small engines is easier than forged firearm receivers and there's a bigger market.....

Ironically,  Honda soesn't seem to have an electric start 6.5 hp, but you can buy a clone with one.

Looked on eBay and some are selling for $130 plus shipping.
cleanmaxx_brian


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Location: Wantagh, Long Island, NY
Joined: Mar 12, 2005
Points: 231

Re: Honda GX200 Clone engines?
Reply #13   Apr 11, 2005 3:55 pm
Check this out everybody! Hongda!!! LOL!!!

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-06/03/content_336280.htm

Lifan is BIG when it comes to the small .49CC to the 110CC pocket bikes.!!! They sell like crazy and for cheap!

Brian Chang

Ariens 8526LE, Bradley 32" 12.5HP walk behind mower, Echo BP200 blower, Troy Built 4.5HP Pressure Washer,  Craftsman 4.5HP Yard Vac, Homelite line trimmer, Scotts 21" high wheel mower, MTD 3.5HP Edger.

Emmo


Joined: May 22, 2003
Points: 1065

Re: Honda GX200 Clone engines?
Reply #14   Apr 11, 2005 4:06 pm
Highwind wrote:
LOL Marshall,

Or "Hondha", "Hawnda", or the Vietnamese version "HoChiMinhda" .


Pretty good guess Highwind,

according to the article:

"Last year, the Beijing No 2 Intermediate People's Court heard a case filed by Honda against Lifan. In that case, Honda said Lifan used "Hongda" on its products, which Honda claims is very similar to Honda. The case is still pending."
millwright


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Re: Honda GX200 Clone engines?
Reply #15   Apr 11, 2005 8:05 pm
There is also a model called trumaxxs on e-bay  which is a clone not 1but 40 or 50  of them  cheap .

OTLBuilder


Joined: Aug 28, 2006
Points: 1

Re: Honda GX200 Clone engines?
Reply #16   Aug 28, 2006 1:31 pm
I am looking for parts to one of the 6.5 hp lifan engines and cannot find anyone in my area who can help me out. Anybody know where I can get a new head and valve for one?

Tim

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