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sailor77077


Joined: Jan 19, 2007
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Ariens 926LE---first run..MAJOR dissapointment
Original Message   Feb 6, 2007 7:36 pm
Howdy,

I'm posting here in hopes someone can enlighten me.  I purchases a 926LE  new this year.  I did the set up procedures to ensure all was good and within specs.  I consider myself handy enough to do that competently.  I live in the Minneapolis area and got a chance to test the new blower today on about 3-4 inches of very light powder with about 6-7 inches EOD. I will preface this post by saying I'm a noob when it comes to snow blowers, my only experience being with a borrowed John Deere TRS 26.

Now  I know this isn't the best test of the machine, but hey, it's what we were dealt.  Here's what was going on.  When I started out, I had 1 wheel unlocked and this thing was almost impossible to keep straight--ok, no problem, lock other wheel.  Now, it still wandered around like a half drunk snake--not wide fluctuactions, but like short jerks on a steering wheel in a car.  It got better as the machine ran, so maybe  it was just something settling  in.  The really dissappointing part was when I hit the EOD.  Like I said, maybe 7-8 inches of piled  powder.  In low gear, the machine climbed up and over the pile without really blowing anything.  Ok,  so next pass, I tried a higher gear, same thing.  It seems like there is not enough weight on the front end to keep it down.  If  I tried to lift up a little on the handles, the tires would  spin.  My neighbor's John Deere had  no trouble next  door.  It took me almost an hour to clear a 40x60 drive that is basically flat.  I don't know maybe I had my expectations to high.  After looking at the Ariens & John Deere side by side, the Ariens body is about 8-10 inches longer, which moves the CG point back due to  the position of the engine.  While that does help for moving the machine around the garage, it seems to be a problem in the snow. 

The machine also would only throw the snow about 18-20 ft, but, I'm going to chalk that up to power with no mass behind it at this point.  One other question---on the scraper height--I put a finishing nail under each edge & adjusted the shoes.  It's about 1/8' all across.  Does that sound about right?

Anyone have any similar experiences or at least tell me what I experienced today was normal. Thanks in advance

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newjerseybt


You want it done right?...You better learn how to do it yourself!

Ariens 1128DLE
Ariens 8526LE
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Re: Ariens 926LE---first run..MAJOR dissapointment
Reply #6   Feb 7, 2007 9:06 am
I had "climbing over the snow" problems and found that if pedestrians walk on the snow first and compact it into ice, the blower will ride on top. That is why I always tried to beat the school kids right after a storm.

Make sure skids and scraper bar are set to spec on a flat surface. Also if the surface you are clearing is not perfectly flat, the blower may wander from side to side. (Finally, it is rare, but check to see if the intake chute is welded square to the blower housing.)

You can also try placing a bag of ice melt on the blower housing to see if there is an improvement.
mech12


Joined: Feb 20, 2006
Points: 273

Re: Ariens 926LE---first run..MAJOR dissapointment
Reply #7   Feb 7, 2007 9:37 am
sailor   ,  ariens does sell a weight kit for the front ends.   if you need help with parts call  763-783-9161   its an ace hardware chain.
sailor77077


Joined: Jan 19, 2007
Points: 20

Re: Ariens 926LE---first run..MAJOR dissapointment
Reply #8   Feb 7, 2007 1:31 pm
Again,

Thanks for the quick responses.  As I read more and listen, it seems that it is mostly a factor of very low temps causing the snow to freeze and compact from it's own weight.  I will try the weight trick to see if it helps.

It is a little dissapointing that after spending a sizeable amount of money on the machine the first thing I have to do is go purchase an accessory to make it work properly.  Oh well, live & learn.  Now I'm beginning to question the Ariens. Please tell me I didnt' buy the wrong machine.

Thanks

newjerseybt


You want it done right?...You better learn how to do it yourself!

Ariens 1128DLE
Ariens 8526LE
Honda HRC216
Bosch 3221L
Craftsman DYT4000
Stihl FS90R


Location: Honesdale, PA
Joined: Dec 19, 2004
Points: 171

Re: Ariens 926LE---first run..MAJOR dissapointment
Reply #9   Feb 7, 2007 3:11 pm
No special brand of snowthrower will perform "magic" for you if snow has compacted to ice. These are snowthrowers, not ice throwers.

Try placing 10 or 20 pounds of ice-melt on top of the blower chute first before spending $50 on a weight kit. I think I am making sense here.
nibbler


Joined: Mar 5, 2004
Points: 751

Re: Ariens 926LE---first run..MAJOR dissapointment
Reply #10   Feb 7, 2007 4:51 pm
I just reread the original post and he says he's got light powder, 3-4 inches on the driveway and 6-7 at the EOD. Unless the conditions are different from described then this is NOT an ice problem. I also can't see overloading the auger/impeller with 3-4" of light powder, even at the fastest travel speed the snow should fly. He has also mentioned that the engine is reving up so it is getting enough load for the governor to kick in.

The only thing I cna think of is a slippling belt but even there he says the setup procedures were followed and implied that everything is to spec. Since it is blowing some snow the auger and impeller are turning. The only thing I can see is the shear bolts on the auger  have sheared and the auger only thing causing the auger to turn is friction. Its kind of hard to shear a bolt with out knowing it.

The hesitation and waundering sould an awful lot like the scraper bar may be to low  and the driveway is kind of "lumpy".

BTW - Per your request "Yes you got the right machine"
hirschallan


If it aint broke don't fix it !!


Location: Northern Hills of NY
Joined: Aug 25, 2005
Points: 327

Re: Ariens 926LE---first run..MAJOR dissapointment
Reply #11   Feb 7, 2007 5:51 pm
Maybe the shear bolt was missing altogether or the nut was loose and you just didn't notice.I was in HD last year and observed a brand new /never used snowblower waiting to be taken home missing one shear bolt.Go figure.
This message was modified Feb 7, 2007 by hirschallan


bbwb


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Location: NE Minnesota
Joined: Feb 23, 2004
Points: 115

Re: Ariens 926LE---first run..MAJOR dissapointment
Reply #12   Feb 7, 2007 8:48 pm
My 1028 climbed up over any snow build up because there was not enough weight on the front. Once the weight went on, it stopped doing the exact thing Sailor's machine is doing. <BR>bbwb
This message was modified Feb 7, 2007 by bbwb
nibbler


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Points: 751

Re: Ariens 926LE---first run..MAJOR dissapointment
Reply #13   Feb 8, 2007 10:22 am
bbwb wrote:
My 1028 climbed up over any snow build up because there was not enough weight on the front. Once the weight went on, it stopped doing the exact thing Sailor's machine is doing. <BR>bbwb

The thing is you shouldn't have to do anything to the machine to make it work correctly unless you have changed something, such as adding a snow cab. If it is too light on the front end and you are using it in its stock configuration then there is either a design problem ( I think unlikely) or an operator fixable problem. You are right in that putting some weight, such as a small bag of salt would tell us if that is the problem but checking out the other possibilities is a good idea as well.

bbwb - I've been lusting after an Ariens DLE for some time and had just about decided on the 926DLE, what made you decide on the 1028 instead? For me the maneuverability of the slightly smaller machine was more important than the slightly larger swath. I also suspect that the engines are also the same, except for the HP stickers.
oakville


Joined: Dec 6, 2005
Points: 92

Re: Ariens 926LE---first run..MAJOR dissapointment
Reply #14   Feb 8, 2007 10:26 am
my 926DLE never rode up unless i was going too fast.  for some EOD, i would have to feather the drive lever because the engine had throttled up to handle the snow.  perhaps a lower first gear would help, but i really never thought of it as a problem.

and yeah, the DLE is an absolute gem to handle - spins on a dime when you want, rock solid straight when you want, and nice toasty warm hands.

sailor77077


Joined: Jan 19, 2007
Points: 20

Re: Ariens 926LE---first run..MAJOR dissapointment
Reply #15   Feb 8, 2007 12:14 pm
Guys,

I guess I should kind of revisit and clarify a few things.

1.  The engine, Auger, impeller and all mechanicals were running fine. No shear pin issues, no belt issues

2.  The shoes were adjusted to 1/8" as per the manual

3. The driveway is less than a year old and smmoooth asphalt

4.  The machine was throwing snow, just not as far as I expected.  It was tossing it about 15-20ft max, but I do believe that is from the light power consistence.  Just no mass to make it fly farther. 

My concern is the riding up on snow.  It just really seemed to want to climb rather than dig.  It was about -8 below out so maybe that was causing premature ice forming.  I don't know.  It just seemed like the balance of the machine was heavy in the back. When the machine did go through some piles (neighbor has an atv with a plow, so he would pile it up and I would blow it into the yard) 1ft -1.5ft, the machine ate it up like cake.

Maybe I had my expectations to high, but at least I'm not shoveling and I am learning thanks to this board

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