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Lucky1


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Oreck may have an announcement shortly
Original Message   Feb 19, 2011 5:06 pm
A famous German Vacuum soon to be available at your local Oreck Dealer.....Hummm.
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Oreck may have an announcement shortly
Reply #5   Feb 20, 2011 7:13 am
HARDSELL wrote:
THIS NEWS ALERT JUST IN.  DYSON, THE MOST ENVIED AND COPIED VACUUM NOW HAS A SECOND VAC COMPANY RUNNING FOR COVER.  MOST WILL RECALL HOW DYSON FORCED HOOVER TO COLLAPSE.  THEY ARE NOW HOVERING OVER ORECK.  ORECK IS A WANNABE VACUUM MANUFACTURER THAT SELLS ITS ELECTRIC BROOMS TO THE GULLIBLE THAT FALL FOR THEIR PROPOGANDA.

IN AN ATTEMPT TO STAY AFLOAT (UNLIKE HOOVER) ORECK HAS RESORTED TO BUYING OR COPYING DESIGNS OF THE MORE SUCCESSFUL MANUFACTURERS.  GOOD OLD DYSON REINVESTS IN PRODUCTS AND EMPLOYEES RATHER THAN HOARDING THE PROFITS AS ORECK DOES.

STAY TUNED FOR MORE AS ORECK IS WASHED OUT WITH THE TIDE.  



Looks and sounds like ORECK is partnering with other vacuum brands, worldwide, and models to supplement its floorcare line up both bagged and bagless units, carpet and steam cleaners, floor cleaning and waxing orbiters, and from their claims, the most popular selling air purifiers in the USA.

Once again I ask you, and anxiously look forward to hearing, what dyson has launched lately by reinvesting in products and employees?

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Oreck may have an announcement shortly
Reply #6   Feb 20, 2011 6:47 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
THIS NEWS ALERT JUST IN.  DYSON, THE MOST ENVIED AND COPIED VACUUM NOW HAS A SECOND VAC COMPANY RUNNING FOR COVER.  MOST WILL RECALL HOW DYSON FORCED HOOVER TO COLLAPSE.  THEY ARE NOW HOVERING OVER ORECK.  ORECK IS A WANNABE VACUUM MANUFACTURER THAT SELLS ITS ELECTRIC BROOMS TO THE GULLIBLE THAT FALL FOR THEIR PROPOGANDA.

IN AN ATTEMPT TO STAY AFLOAT (UNLIKE HOOVER) ORECK HAS RESORTED TO BUYING OR COPYING DESIGNS OF THE MORE SUCCESSFUL MANUFACTURERS.  GOOD OLD DYSON REINVESTS IN PRODUCTS AND EMPLOYEES RATHER THAN HOARDING THE PROFITS AS ORECK DOES.

STAY TUNED FOR MORE AS ORECK IS WASHED OUT WITH THE TIDE.  

Where are you getting all this info from? Good old Dyson used Panasonic motors in the beginning!
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Oreck may have an announcement shortly
Reply #7   Feb 20, 2011 7:14 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
Where are you getting all this info from? Good old Dyson used Panasonic motors in the beginning!

Hello Vacmanuk:

Well after the beginning.  DC17 which dyson launched in Feb 2007 used the cheapest panasonic one fan motor ever made.  An industry staple since the 1970's at the time dyson coopted it for its own use.  That was 5 years after dyson launched in the USA.  DC17 Absolute Animal, its top of the line at the time, had an MSRP of $549.  

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Oreck may have an announcement shortly
Reply #8   Feb 22, 2011 12:36 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello Vacmanuk:

Well after the beginning.  DC17 which dyson launched in Feb 2007 used the cheapest panasonic one fan motor ever made.  An industry staple since the 1970's at the time dyson coopted it for its own use.  That was 5 years after dyson launched in the USA.  DC17 Absolute Animal, its top of the line at the time, had an MSRP of $549.  

Carmine D.


Sorry Carmine, I was responding to Hardsell's news about Oreck but I realise now this member is spouting rubbish. As ** IF ** Dyson were so kind to their employees - I'm not too sure UK Dyson employees took too kindly when Dyson shifted their customer response unit to other countries. My neighbour's son is a classic example. Worked for Dyson for about 8 years, went to engineer and design R&D dept and within less than a year was told that his job and others were being shifted to Asia. Oh yes, Hardsell, Dyson are so original and customary to their workers - NOT!
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Oreck may have an announcement shortly
Reply #9   Feb 22, 2011 1:21 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
Sorry Carmine, I was responding to Hardsell's news about Oreck but I realise now this member is spouting rubbish. As ** IF ** Dyson were so kind to their employees - I'm not too sure UK Dyson employees took too kindly when Dyson shifted their customer response unit to other countries. My neighbour's son is a classic example. Worked for Dyson for about 8 years, went to engineer and design R&D dept and within less than a year was told that his job and others were being shifted to Asia. Oh yes, Hardsell, Dyson are so original and customary to their workers - NOT!


Hi vacmanuk:

Interesting...add too what you and UK residents alreay know but some still don't comprehend here in the USA:  dyson shifted the UK dyson production to malaysia in 2000 and uses contractor people in the location to build them.  Double whammy for UK and its residents.  ORECK has stayed in the USA employing Americans with its manufacture of lightweight uprights.  Much to the credit of Dave, his family, and ORECK.

Any news about ORECK rolling out any models in any UK retailers??  Yet??

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Oreck may have an announcement shortly
Reply #10   Feb 22, 2011 6:32 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
Sorry Carmine, I was responding to Hardsell's news about Oreck but I realise now this member is spouting rubbish. As ** IF ** Dyson were so kind to their employees - I'm not too sure UK Dyson employees took too kindly when Dyson shifted their customer response unit to other countries. My neighbour's son is a classic example. Worked for Dyson for about 8 years, went to engineer and design R&D dept and within less than a year was told that his job and others were being shifted to Asia. Oh yes, Hardsell, Dyson are so original and customary to their workers - NOT!

What is the problem with the Panasonic motor that Dyson used?  Oreck has far more motor failures.  Hey! Carmine is the one who claims that Dyson employs hundreds of engineers.  Could he be exagerating...............AGAIN?
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Oreck may have an announcement shortly
Reply #11   Feb 22, 2011 7:11 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
What is the problem with the Panasonic motor that Dyson used?  Oreck has far more motor failures.  Hey! Carmine is the one who claims that Dyson employs hundreds of engineers.  Could he be exagerating...............AGAIN?


The motor costs $50 wholesale and is used in Pano's least expensive big box store models some selling for as little as $70.  Dyson used the motor in its top of the line models selling for $550. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Oreck may have an announcement shortly
Reply #12   Feb 22, 2011 7:31 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
What is the problem with the Panasonic motor that Dyson used?  Oreck has far more motor failures.  Hey! Carmine is the one who claims that Dyson employs hundreds of engineers.  Could he be exagerating...............AGAIN?



Not quite correct with your information as usual.  This is excerpted from the dyson web site:

Research, design and development

New ideas are the lifeblood of Dyson. Every year, we invest our profits back into harnessing them at our research and development laboratory in Wiltshire, UK. There are 350 engineers and scientists based there. Thinking, testing, breaking, questioning.

Again I ask you as I have many times in the past and anxiously await your response: What new products has dyson launched lately with their 350 scientists and engineers?

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Oreck may have an announcement shortly
Reply #13   Feb 22, 2011 9:45 pm
CarmineD wrote:
The motor costs $50 wholesale and is used in Pano's least expensive big box store models some selling for as little as $70.  Dyson used the motor in its top of the line models selling for $550. 

Carmine D.


A $50 motor costs more than all the parts of an Oreck.  The Oreck sells for $800. 
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Oreck may have an announcement shortly
Reply #14   Feb 22, 2011 9:49 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Not quite correct with your information as usual.  This is excerpted from the dyson web site:

Research, design and development

New ideas are the lifeblood of Dyson. Every year, we invest our profits back into harnessing them at our research and development laboratory in Wiltshire, UK. There are 350 engineers and scientists based there. Thinking, testing, breaking, questioning.

Again I ask you as I have many times in the past and anxiously await your response: What new products has dyson launched lately with their 350 scientists and engineers?

Carmine D.


Actually you have added nothing to show that I was wrong.  You have harped for years about the # of Dyson engineers.  Doesn't matter where your excerpt is from it has not been here until now.

I have not responded to a useless question.  Dyson has produced more in the last 5 or 6 years than Oreck has since its inception.  What does Oreck sell that they did not copy or buy due to incompetent engineers?
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