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Venson


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Rowenta "Air Force" Wireless Vac . . .
Original Message   Nov 29, 2010 8:54 am
Happy Monday . . .

Rowenta has entered the cordless stick vac market with a new model, the Air Force. As with many Rowenta past vacs, it bears a wedge shaped nozzle for getting you right into corners. The claims here are stronger suction equivalent to a regular canister machine and up to 40-minutes of runtime. Sounds like a go -- if it works.

http://living.scotsman.com/features/Gadgets-Rowenta-Air-Force-Wireless.6642531.jp

http://www.homeandcook.co.uk

The following link is to a sweet and to the point YouTube video from Which?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K_B_yeo6I8

Venson
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Rowenta "Air Force" Wireless Vac . . .
Reply #10   Dec 2, 2010 7:00 am
I posted a pic of the HOOVER/TTI LiNx stick in the event it is not the same as the Vax/Life LiNx, which I'm beginning to think is a real possibility.

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Rowenta "Air Force" Wireless Vac . . .
Reply #11   Dec 2, 2010 8:35 am
CarmineD wrote:
I posted a pic of the HOOVER/TTI LiNx stick in the event it is not the same as the Vax/Life LiNx, which I'm beginning to think is a real possibility.

Carmine D.


Nope. Sorry to report Carmine, it is indeed the same model: Taken from http://www.vax.co.uk/shop/catalogue/upright-vacuum-cleaners/life-cordless







CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Rowenta "Air Force" Wireless Vac . . .
Reply #12   Dec 2, 2010 1:25 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
Nope. Sorry to report Carmine, it is indeed the same model: Taken from http://www.vax.co.uk/shop/catalogue/upright-vacuum-cleaners/life-cordless



Don't be sorry, Vacmaunuk.  It's very useful.  Same model or is it?  Some key differences:  Most notibly price and warranty.  Here in the USA $160.  UK: $320.  Euro may explain some of price difference. 

Also, appears to be different tech specs for run time and bin capacity than you posted [from the link you provided]:

Upright
Battery Type:
Lithium Ion
Capacity:
1.40 litres
Cable:
Cordless
Run Time:
13 - 15 minutes
Charge Time:
3 hours
Weight:
4.90 kilograms
Guarantee:
6 year guarantee
vacmanuk wrote:
Carmine. According to Which tests, the Vax Life/Hoover Linx runs for 40 minutes to an hour and only takes 3 hours as opposed to the first 16 hours on the Rowenta and 8 hours thereafter. Also the Life/Linx has a 1 litre capacity dust bin compared to the Rowenta's slightly smaller 0.9 litres.

Something just doesn't jibe.  What do you think?

Carmine D.

This message was modified Dec 2, 2010 by CarmineD
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Rowenta "Air Force" Wireless Vac . . .
Reply #13   Dec 2, 2010 4:31 pm
Well, I think the U.S specs may be wrong. For a start there's no way the Linx/Life has a 1.4 litre dust bin. As for the rest, even Vax's own UK site has 1.0 litre/1L listed. This is why I've often said that you can't rely on stats alone to get the general opinion that a vacuum is good, regardless of how high tech it is.

The problem with the run time is dependent largely on the kind of surfaces that Vax or Hoover or even Which have tested this model on. We don't have to worry about different textures when using a mains powered vacuum for example because there's continuous power all the time. I'd suggest Vax have tested the Life on the thinnest nylon carpet against Which who may have tested it on thicker pile, thus the marked difference in run times. My own experience of a cordless upright vac rests with the older Electrolux Ergorapido/Pronto. The power brush roller lasted longer on thinner pile carpet against thicker pile carpet, obviously putting more strain on the brush roller which then puts pressure on the cordless battery to work harder than the thinner, easier to roll over nylon carpet.
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Rowenta "Air Force" Wireless Vac . . .
Reply #14   Dec 2, 2010 8:05 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
Well, I think the U.S specs may be wrong. For a start there's no way the Linx/Life has a 1.4 litre dust bin. As for the rest, even Vax's own UK site has 1.0 litre/1L listed. This is why I've often said that you can't rely on stats alone to get the general opinion that a vacuum is good, regardless of how high tech it is.


Vacmanuk:

The tech specs I posted are from the UK site for the Vax/Life LiNx, not US LiNx.  Soemthing just not kosher.

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Rowenta "Air Force" Wireless Vac . . .
Reply #15   Dec 3, 2010 6:55 am
Oh well, someone will just have to buy it and relay the info/usage on here. I think someone on here already confirmed the run time from personal usage.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Rowenta "Air Force" Wireless Vac . . .
Reply #16   Dec 3, 2010 7:56 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Oh well, someone will just have to buy it and relay the info/usage on here. I think someone on here already confirmed the run time from personal usage.


Thanks to Vacomatic here it is from May 2010 for the USA LiNx.  Now we could use the same for Vax/Life LiNx.  Except for dirt bin capacity which I mentioned I could not verify anywhere on line for the USA sold LiNx.  Except for price and warranty [and bin capacity] this looks almost same as UK specs for the UK LiNx.  And much different than the Which? info for the LiNx.  Rowenta Air Force still looks like the better buy based on this review.

Carmine D.

Linx is a lightweight "windtunnel" stick vac that does a decent light duty cleaning of carpets and floors. With battery and parked on carpet, it tends to fall over. A loud, grinding motor's unpleasant, and the Lithium Ion battery, while maintaining constant power, only lasts 10 - 12 minutes (recharges take 3 hours). Brush head's cog belt driven. Not a lot of airflow thanks to the very restrictive secondary filter. Vac's fine for small apartments and surface dirt on rugs/floors, but keep a regular canister/upright around for serious cleaning!

Date Purchased: 10/15/09
Price Paid: $170
Recommend: Yes
Pros:
Lightweight, easy to carry and push.
Relatively constant battery output.
OK at picking up surface litter.
Brush roll can be switched off.

Cons:
Very loud motors.
Tips over on rugs with batter installed.
Short battery life: 10 - 12 min. max.
Secondary filter messy to clean, clogs easily.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Rowenta "Air Force" Wireless Vac . . .
Reply #17   Dec 3, 2010 2:15 pm
Well.. that's interesting info. If I get one to trial, I'll let you know all about the Rowenta.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Rowenta "Air Force" Wireless Vac . . .
Reply #18   Dec 4, 2010 6:56 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Well.. that's interesting info. If I get one to trial, I'll let you know all about the Rowenta.


Sounds like a plan. Let us know the unknowns.  I still can't reconcile the huge price differntial between the Vax/Life LiNx and the HOOVER TTI LiNx.  Euro dollar diff explains some but not this much.  Something just doesn't compute.

Carmine D.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Rowenta "Air Force" Wireless Vac . . .
Reply #19   Dec 4, 2010 8:02 am
CarmineD wrote:
Sounds like a plan. Let us know the unknowns.  I still can't reconcile the huge price differntial between the Vax/Life LiNx and the HOOVER TTI LiNx.  Euro dollar diff explains some but not this much.  Something just doesn't compute.

Carmine D.



The 18-volt model can be had through John Lewis for 129 pounds. That's the equivalent of $201.50 American. Correct me if I am wrong but if the price includes a VAT of some sort then it all probably works out to about the same as I'd pay here for a Platinum Stick. Regular price $179 plus about 15 or 16 dollars additional for sales tax (.0875 percent).

http://www.johnlewis.com/230906944/Product.aspx?SearchTerm=RecentlyViewedList

I haven't been to Europe in quite a while and do not know how the Euro works or prevails since this product is priced in pounds instead of Euros.

So far I've found the Vax Life stick as low as 159 pounds and up to 199 pounds.

Venson
This message was modified Dec 4, 2010 by Venson
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