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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
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Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Original Message   Jul 7, 2010 5:20 pm
Hi,

Which? magazine has just made a preliminary announcement re the Sebo D series vacuums.  Bags being my preference, I was pleased to read that the D series sports a 6-liter bag (about a gallon and a half).  The airbelt is a little wasted on me as I've never had problems with marring furniture.  However, if it will keep the machine itself from looking like it belongs in a second-hand shop for a few years I'm all for it.

Which? plans to test the D series soon.

The story is here: http://www.which.co.uk/news/2010/07/new-vacs-with-bumpers-to-protect-your-furniture-219804

Venson

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vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #48   Jul 29, 2010 9:24 am
CarmineD wrote:
Thank you vacmanuk for all the clarifications including the cordwinder.  What are the benefits of the filter under the bag cover housing?  Is this unique to the SEBO D line of canns?  I haven't read your written review, so I apologize if you explained these matters already.  I will read and post any questions/comments after doing so. 

Carmine D.


The filter on top of the bag acts the motor filter whilst the one on the rear acts as the main filter to expel clean air into rooms. Both filters are indeed unique to the SEBO D series.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #49   Jul 29, 2010 1:03 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
The filter on top of the bag acts the motor filter whilst the one on the rear acts as the main filter to expel clean air into rooms. Both filters are indeed unique to the SEBO D series.



Thank you.  I enjoyed reading the review you posted here on the SEBO D2.  Looks like there is a new sheriff in town.

Carmine D.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #50   Jul 29, 2010 5:15 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
LOL.. well that's the speed of the 2100 watt suction Carmine! Um.. I think its the camera since I was doing the same speed in the kitchen where you can see our old LG washing machine in the distance.
The D has an auto cord rewind as standard, thank god! I don't think I could handle having to lasso up 12 metres of cord. Review now on here about it in worded form and it beats Miele S5 on many points, particularly:

  1. Lighter weight to carry/pull along.
  2. Lighter tubes and lighter handle
  3. Longer hose
  4. No hot air facials
  5. Boxes of 8 bags compared to Miele's 4 bags.
  6. Filter set lasts double the amount of bags.
  7. Quieter than Miele's S5.
  8. Longer power cord than Miele or anything in the UK market presently.



Hey, I'm sorry but I'm keeping the Mieles. You're talking to a country boy.  Well maybe not the biggest and best -- they had to thaw me out with intravenously administered hot chocolate halfway through fall hayrides every now and then. But . . .

The pound or two of extra weight doesn't bother me -- it may turn me into George Atlas one day.  The extra weight on the wands lends to a feeling of confidence that there's at least one thing I won't be replacing after the first odd and unfortunate bang or clunk.

I'm also pleased that the complete control of the machine is all handily under thumb on the hose handle.

As for cord length, my biggest problem was the stairs and I solved that with merely a two-and-one-half-foot electrical extension.  Life is great.

The D Series bigger bag size is an excellent idea but I continue to do very well with Miele's.  As for filtration, at the front lines, the bag chambers in both mine remain very clean with the use of high-filtration bags and I'm happy.  Let's both agree that what matters most, after all, is happiness.

Venson

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vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #51   Jul 29, 2010 7:37 pm
Venson wrote:
Hey, I'm sorry but I'm keeping the Mieles. You're talking to a country boy.  Well maybe not the biggest and best -- they had to thaw me out with intravenously administered hot chocolate halfway through fall hayrides every now and then. But . . .

The pound or two of extra weight doesn't bother me -- it may turn me into George Atlas one day.  The extra weight on the wands lends to a feeling of confidence that there's at least one thing I won't be replacing after the first odd and unfortunate bang or clunk.

I'm also pleased that the complete control of the machine is all handily under thumb on the hose handle.

As for cord length, my biggest problem was the stairs and I solved that with merely a two-and-one-half-foot electrical extension.  Life is great.

The D Series bigger bag size is an excellent idea but I continue to do very well with Miele's.  As for filtration, at the front lines, the bag chambers in both mine remain very clean with the use of high-filtration bags and I'm happy.  Let's both agree that what matters most, after all, is happiness.

Venson


You keep your Miele's - you're entitled to it - and so am I. I have three Miele cylinders too, and none of them are the S5000 models because I've often been put off by the lack of long cord. Ive tried the extension mains power cord reel thing - not very practical when other members in the house hold trip over it. Fine if you're on your own. I'd leave mine out all day if I could get away with it. This is why I bought the Flexhose extender for the Miele hoses because of a lack of longer power cord.

Miele vacuums are generally excellent and I have no qualms in recommending either brand to people who ask me although its good and interesting to hear others thoughts on this. In terms of looking for a big vacuum which has lightweight tubes etc AND a long power cord, SEBO's D now fits my needs perfectly. Oh and my old Miele S571 has had TWO replacement extension pipes since the original ones were fantastic for the first five years until the highest setting I kept putting the tubes into started to become wonky. The original tube then started to get stiffer with age and even with WD40 sprayed, the button rendered itself useless. A call to Miele UK meant free extension tubes which was nice of them at the time. Ive never experienced similar with Sebo tubes though and are two inches shorter when fully extended.
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vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
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Points: 1162

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #52   Aug 13, 2010 6:36 am
Im led to believe that the D series has just landed in the U.S but it may take some time for it to appear on the Sebo U.S website
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #53   Aug 13, 2010 9:34 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Im led to believe that the D series has just landed in the U.S but it may take some time for it to appear on the Sebo U.S website

When I saw the D4 model with power nozzle I felt pretty sure that model at least was meant to come our way.  However, I do have to make one amendment on my thought. It indeed may take time as Sebo dealers will have to move stock they already have on hand to make the acquisition of new models profitable.  My local Miele dealer is claiming the same.

Venson

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vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #54   Sep 10, 2010 6:49 pm
A thought crossed my mind earlier this evening. Upon looking up SEBO in the U.S, the K3 Vulcano you guys have has a 1250 watt motor. There may well be a possibility that the new D series will also have this motor to comply with the U.S voltage.
Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #55   Sep 10, 2010 8:40 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
A thought crossed my mind earlier this evening. Upon looking up SEBO in the U.S, the K3 Vulcano you guys have has a 1250 watt motor. There may well be a possibility that the new D series will also have this motor to comply with the U.S voltage.



Hey vacmanuk,

How are you?  Quick question -- are you sure that the electrical draw is just the motor and not the combined draw by way of the vacuum and the power nozzle?  We have lots of inaccurate advertising here and few do little to make specifics clear when looking to sell.  The claim of a 1200 watt draw regarding a canister vac with P/N can often mean 1,000 watts or slightly under for the canister and about 200 for the power nozzle.  This would also apply to clean-air uprights with two-motor systems. 

However, I did buy and try out the 1200 watt straight suction Black & Decker VN1400P a couple of years ago.  I don't see it on the B&D website any longer but I think it's still up for sale.  The suction was wonderful but it used a pleated filter plus and other bright ideas were bungled.

Venson

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #56   Sep 10, 2010 9:16 pm
I answered my own question.  Per the Sebo America website, the Airbelt K motor uses 1,250 watts and the ET-1 power nozzle draws 175 watts for total 1,425 watt draw.

Venson

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #57   Sep 11, 2010 4:54 pm
Venson wrote:
Hey vacmanuk,

How are you?  Quick question -- are you sure that the electrical draw is just the motor and not the combined draw by way of the vacuum and the power nozzle?  We have lots of inaccurate advertising here and few do little to make specifics clear when looking to sell.  The claim of a 1200 watt draw regarding a canister vac with P/N can often mean 1,000 watts or slightly under for the canister and about 200 for the power nozzle.  This would also apply to clean-air uprights with two-motor systems. 

However, I did buy and try out the 1200 watt straight suction Black & Decker VN1400P a couple of years ago.  I don't see it on the B&D website any longer but I think it's still up for sale.  The suction was wonderful but it used a pleated filter plus and other bright ideas were bungled.

Venson


Mes well Venson thanks for asking - hope you are well too et al!  Glad you managed to check it out yourself!
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