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Venson


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Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Original Message   Jul 7, 2010 5:20 pm
Hi,

Which? magazine has just made a preliminary announcement re the Sebo D series vacuums.  Bags being my preference, I was pleased to read that the D series sports a 6-liter bag (about a gallon and a half).  The airbelt is a little wasted on me as I've never had problems with marring furniture.  However, if it will keep the machine itself from looking like it belongs in a second-hand shop for a few years I'm all for it.

Which? plans to test the D series soon.

The story is here: http://www.which.co.uk/news/2010/07/new-vacs-with-bumpers-to-protect-your-furniture-219804

Venson

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vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #17   Jul 14, 2010 10:06 pm
SEBO's D series are now available to view on the UK site. Unlike Germany however the UK will only sell 2100 watt models in four trims: Storm, Titan, Total and Premium.

It has already got a seal of approval from GHI who rates it "powerful and very effective filter efficiency."

http://www.sebo.co.uk/Pages/d_seriestech.html
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #18   Jul 15, 2010 7:00 am
vacmanuk wrote:
SEBO's D series are now available to view on the UK site. Unlike Germany however the UK will only sell 2100 watt models in four trims: Storm, Titan, Total and Premium.

It has already got a seal of approval from GHI who rates it "powerful and very effective filter efficiency."

http://www.sebo.co.uk/Pages/d_seriestech.html



Thanks for the update vacmanuk.  D2 and D4 still not on the SEBO USA site yet.

http://sebo-vacuums.com/index.aspx

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
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Points: 1162

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #19   Jul 15, 2010 9:11 am
CarmineD wrote:
Thanks for the update vacmanuk.  D2 and D4 still not on the SEBO USA site yet.

http://sebo-vacuums.com/index.aspx

Carmine D.


Hi Carmine - they wont be for a while - Europe will get the models first then the U.S
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #20   Jul 18, 2010 5:47 pm
GHI have already tested the Sebo D series but they don't say which model, even though it is clear from their review summary that from their elevated noise test that the extra sound may well be the electronic motor brush, a unit on its own which I have found to be overly noisy. Having tested my own model it does indeed register at 67 decibels without the electronic head (the D2 Total I have doesn't come with an electronic head, nor do I wish one).

http://www.allaboutyou.com/Good-Housekeeping-Tried-Tested/Sebo-Airbelt-D-vacuum-cleaner/product

GHI gave their test of the D series 86/100. Here is the top ten, with the first reaching high scores. I was expecting to see Dyson near the top but not in this respect and its good to see Miele are in this list a couple of times along with SEBO. Pity Nilfisk didn't make it as I thought they have always been a good brand.


Miele TT5000 Cat n Dog 91/100
LG Compressor Allergy Care 90/100
Miele Solution HEPA 5000 89/100
Karcher VC6300 88/100
SEBO K1 Pet 87/100
SEBO D? 86/100
Dyson DC23 Motorhead  86/100
SEBO K3 Airbelt Vulcano 86/100
Bosch Compressor BSG 86/100
Philips Marathon FC9222 83/100

Out of all these companies according to GHI's list, the majority are German brands.
This message was modified Jul 18, 2010 by vacmanuk
Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #21   Jul 19, 2010 2:20 am
vacmanuk wrote:
GHI have already tested the Sebo D series but they don't say which model, even though it is clear from their review summary that from their elevated noise test that the extra sound may well be the electronic motor brush, a unit on its own which I have found to be overly noisy. Having tested my own model it does indeed register at 67 decibels without the electronic head (the D2 Total I have doesn't come with an electronic head, nor do I wish one).

http://www.allaboutyou.com/Good-Housekeeping-Tried-Tested/Sebo-Airbelt-D-vacuum-cleaner/product

GHI gave their test of the D series 86/100. Here is the top ten, with the first reaching high scores. I was expecting to see Dyson near the top but not in this respect and its good to see Miele are in this list a couple of times along with SEBO. Pity Nilfisk didn't make it as I thought they have always been a good brand.


Miele TT5000 Cat n Dog 91/100
LG Compressor Allergy Care 90/100
Miele Solution HEPA 5000 89/100
Karcher VC6300 88/100
SEBO K1 Pet 87/100
SEBO D? 86/100
Dyson DC23 Motorhead  86/100
SEBO K3 Airbelt Vulcano 86/100
Bosch Compressor BSG 86/100
Philips Marathon FC9222 83/100

Out of all these companies according to GHI's list, the majority are German brands.


I would say that's a testament to Dyson making quality vacuums right there. Just to point out.
Moebius


Joined: Jul 17, 2010
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Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #22   Jul 19, 2010 12:13 pm
Hertz wrote:
I would say that's a testament to Dyson making quality vacuums right there..

Says nothing about whether they will still be working  5, or even, 10+ years from now.

I saw a surprising amount of Dysons in the repair line at the local high-end vacuum shop last week. Of the 20-30 vacs waiting to be repaired or picked up, I'd say ~5 were Dysons. The rest were primarily Hoovers and others of the lower level commodity variety. I didn't see a single Riccar, Miele, Bosch, or Simplicity(Riccar), even though the they are a certified repair/sales shop.

This may be an unfair observation due to Dyson's massive advertising campaign and current fad status, but it also hints at possible long term durability issues.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #23   Jul 19, 2010 1:09 pm
Moebius wrote:
Says nothing about whether they will still be working  5, or even, 10+ years from now.

I saw a surprising amount of Dysons in the repair line at the local high-end vacuum shop last week. Of the 20-30 vacs waiting to be repaired or picked up, I'd say ~5 were Dysons. The rest were primarily Hoovers and others of the lower level commodity variety. I didn't see a single Riccar, Miele, Bosch, or Simplicity(Riccar), even though the they are a certified repair/sales shop.

This may be an unfair observation due to Dyson's massive advertising campaign and current fad status, but it also hints at possible long term durability issues.



I would add WRT the GHI testing of the models/brands above in vacmanuk's post that dyson's DC23 is the most expensive, in some cases almost 2-3 times more than the others tested, and had the following "drawbacks" as GHI calls them:

Drawbacks: One of the loudest and heaviest cylinders tested. Big and bulky to store. The telescopic tube is quite chunky and heavy.

May be different as one poster here claims but doesn't appear better IMHO just higher priced, an inherent dyson product characteristic.  Interestingly even higher priced is dyson's DC22 cann with motorhead for $799 US.  Boasts the renown DDM.  Haven't seen an authoritative industry review yet or may have missed it.  Dyson would have us believe less in the case of DC22 at a higher price is better.  Wonder how that's working out for him and this canister.

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #24   Jul 19, 2010 4:34 pm
Hertz wrote:
I would say that's a testament to Dyson making quality vacuums right there. Just to point out.

Assumption is the mother of all f*ck ups. If Dyson were that good you can bet they'd be more than one in that GHI ten/ten list.
Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
Points: 199

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #25   Jul 20, 2010 4:35 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Assumption is the mother of all f*ck ups. If Dyson were that good you can bet they'd be more than one in that GHI ten/ten list.


No, not really. Bias can also be the mother of all f*ck ups.
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Sebo Airbelt D Series . . .
Reply #26   Jul 20, 2010 9:57 am
Hertz wrote:
No, not really. Bias can also be the mother of all f*ck ups.

Eh. no.. GHI have tested quite a few vacs in their time including Dyson. I'm sure they have a balanced fair decision when it comes to household appliances incl. vacuum cleaners. The fact that two bagless vacuum cleaners in that top ten are not Dyson is the MOST surprising.
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