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eliot3


Joined: May 13, 2010
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Upright wanted--Hoover?
Original Message   May 13, 2010 3:21 pm
I am interested in buying an upright vacuum, bagged, and I am willing to spend up to, say, $350.  It will be used, not heavily, by an older woman who has a shedding cat and is not mechanically apt.  A longish cord and an attachment for a linoleum floor would be a plus.  I'll take any suggestion, but in the absence of any I am looking at a Hoover UH30010COM Platinum Lightweight Bagged Upright Vacuum Cleaner with Canister, which is sold on Amazon.  My concern with Hoovers in general is that according to CR they are highly repair prone.  Anybody have experience with this model in particular, recent experience with Hoovers in general, or any other suggestions?
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Upright wanted--Hoover?
Reply #25   May 17, 2010 7:46 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Is there something wrong with saying What Tomfoolery?  If you have to vacuum the area 7 times you need a better vacuum. 

My favorite:  A soup question.  No more wrong than ID-10-T.  Oftentimes, it's not the vacuum brand/model that is at fault when rugs fill with deep down dirt, but the way it is used.  Or, more appropriately in your particular case, the lack thereof.

Carmine D.

This message was modified May 17, 2010 by CarmineD
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Upright wanted--Hoover?
Reply #26   May 17, 2010 9:02 pm
CarmineD wrote:
My favorite:  A soup question.  No more wrong than ID-10-T.  Oftentimes, it's not the vacuum brand/model that is at fault when rugs fill with deep down dirt, but the way it is used.  Or, more appropriately in your particular case, the lack thereof.

Carmine D.



The soup question has you in a stew. 

If you home is so filthy that you have to vacuum an area 7 times daily you have more than vacuum problems.

A good tool reduces labor.  That is why Dyson costs more than the electric broom that you use.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Upright wanted--Hoover?
Reply #27   May 17, 2010 9:12 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
The soup question has you in a stew. 

If you home is so filthy that you have to vacuum an area 7 times daily you have more than vacuum problems.

A good tool reduces labor.  That is why Dyson costs more than the electric broom that you use.


Better to be in a stew than in a stupor.

Anyone, even an amateur, can do the job with the right tool, it takes a skilled craftsman to do it without.

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Upright wanted--Hoover?
Reply #28   May 17, 2010 9:38 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Better to be in a stew than in a stupor.

Anyone, even an amateur, can do the job with the right tool, it takes a skilled craftsman to do it without.

Carmine D.



Dyson builds a tool to do the job right the first time.  That leaves the operator time to do useful things.

THe craftsman is James Dyson.  Oreck is a relic and lost in today's world as evidenced in the slump in sales.  Do you still wash your clothes in a stream and beat the dirt out with a rock?  A true art.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Upright wanted--Hoover?
Reply #29   May 17, 2010 10:29 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
Dyson builds a tool to do the job right the first time.  That leaves the operator time to do useful things.

THe craftsman is James Dyson.  Oreck is a relic and lost in today's world as evidenced in the slump in sales.  Do you still wash your clothes in a stream and beat the dirt out with a rock?  A true art.

Oh yes Hardsell - w h a t e v e r - Dyson may have got his tools right but his washing machines went belly up and they have yet to make another appearance despite the poor reliability of the last ones sold.
retardturtle1


Joined: May 16, 2009
Points: 358

Re: Upright wanted--Hoover?
Reply #30   May 17, 2010 10:41 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Have at it.  Keep me posted.  I'm sure you'll find the rugs looking better both before and after you shampoo too by using this 7X7 procedure.

Carmine D.



Will do....very light sand colored carpet throughout....easily picks up any and all stains/dirt you name it....no shoes in house but sometimes it cant be helped.

Shampooing the carpets and sofas every 3mos really makes a diff in wifes allergies and in keeping everything fresh and looking brand new. Im looking forward to seeing the results of what ive left behind.

turtle

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Upright wanted--Hoover?
Reply #31   May 18, 2010 1:48 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Dyson builds a tool to do the job right the first time.  That leaves the operator time to do useful things.

THe craftsman is James Dyson.  Oreck is a relic and lost in today's world as evidenced in the slump in sales.  Do you still wash your clothes in a stream and beat the dirt out with a rock?  A true art.


Like these tools:

  1. The Ball barrow [aka discontinued wheel barrow]. 
  2. Airblade [aka hand drier for $1400]. 
  3. AirMultiplier [aka 10 inch fan for $300]. 
  4. Ball vacuum [DC15 for $599 and discontinued after one year.  DC18 Slim for $469 and discontinued after 2 years.  DC24 for $399 and TBD.  DC25 for $500 plus with a free dyson handheld and free Dirt Devil rug cleaner]. 
  5. Waterless dish washer [patent pending for 3 years and still counting]. 
  6. Contra rotating washing machine [aka a washing machine costing 2X the normal price that was pulled off the market after 1 year for lack of sales].  
  7. Robotic state of the art pristine DDM plant [aka UK-China business partnership which recently shuttered].  

The craftyman is James Dyson.  Useful things in today's world to meet the problems of the future.   Tru r teest!

Carmine D.

This message was modified May 18, 2010 by CarmineD
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Upright wanted--Hoover?
Reply #32   May 18, 2010 1:50 am
retardturtle1 wrote:
Will do....very light sand colored carpet throughout....easily picks up any and all stains/dirt you name it....no shoes in house but sometimes it cant be helped.

Shampooing the carpets and sofas every 3mos really makes a diff in wifes allergies and in keeping everything fresh and looking brand new. Im looking forward to seeing the results of what ive left behind.

turtle



Sounds like a perfect plan of action. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Upright wanted--Hoover?
Reply #33   May 18, 2010 1:52 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Oh yes Hardsell - w h a t e v e r - Dyson may have got his tools right but his washing machines went belly up and they have yet to make another appearance despite the poor reliability of the last ones sold.


I was amazed dyson actually sold 1900 in 2004 before he pulled it off the market.  Then, I learned he actually gave each of his employees one free. 

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Upright wanted--Hoover?
Reply #34   May 18, 2010 10:01 am
CarmineD wrote:
Like these tools:
  1. The Ball barrow [aka discontinued wheel barrow]. 
  2. Airblade [aka hand drier for $1400]. 
  3. AirMultiplier [aka 10 inch fan for $300]. 
  4. Ball vacuum [DC15 for $599 and discontinued after one year.  DC18 Slim for $469 and discontinued after 2 years.  DC24 for $399 and TBD.  DC25 for $500 plus with a free dyson handheld and free Dirt Devil rug cleaner]. 
  5. Waterless dish washer [patent pending for 3 years and still counting]. 
  6. Contra rotating washing machine [aka a washing machine costing 2X the normal price that was pulled off the market after 1 year for lack of sales].  
  7. Robotic state of the art pristine DDM plant [aka UK-China business partnership which recently shuttered].  

The craftyman is James Dyson.  Useful things in today's world to meet the problems of the future.   Tru r teest!

Carmine D.


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