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Trebor


Joined: Jan 16, 2009
Points: 321

New Oreck vacuums
Original Message   May 5, 2010 5:19 pm
Today I fortuitously stopped at the local Oreck dealer. 

Mike, the owner of several Oreck franchises and a few multi-brand stores had brought his new Edge upright from home, as stock had not arrived yet.

It has a more powerful motor, with a true  floating head. LED lights, infinite speed control AND and on-board stretch hose with a permanently attached telescopic crevice tool that is automatically active when the handle is in the upright position.  It lacks the Pilot's pivot head and the Halo's germ killing light. A model incorporating all three features is under development.  It is still easy to push, although it weighs 10 lb and requires a bit more effort than previous models.

There is a commercial OBT upright made by Stein (Sebo) that is very nice at only 450.00.  Oreck WILL be offering a bagless upright, but dealer participation is optional.  The new canister is color matched to the Edge and designed to be leaned on as the user vacuums stairs. Odd looking bare floor/crevice tool, no swivel neck. The bristles fold in to form the crevice tool, and the wand is inserted into a neck that curves more than 60 and less than 90 degrees, much like the OLD bare floor tools made of wood with the metal neck screwed on. A turbo tool is included and a dusting brush.

A cute little bagless canister is available for 49.99  Oreck has increased market share and has 89% brand recognition as a vacuum cleaner. They have become #1in  air purifier sales. (Mike did not say if that was dollar volume, or units or both.

The price of the Edge and matching canister will be about 750.00

Oreck is still marketing, still developing product, and still building a loyal customer base.
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #2   May 6, 2010 7:11 am
Hi Venson:

Nice concept and product.  Hand held portable canister with UV-C technology now part of the ORECK repertoire.  But $400 is ridiculously high.  Once it comes down to say $200, maybe a consideration especially for hotels/motels ORECK's traditional mass market venue.

Carmine D.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #3   May 6, 2010 8:00 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hi Venson:

Nice concept and product.  Hand held portable canister with UV-C technology now part of the ORECK repertoire.  But $400 is ridiculously high.  Once it comes down to say $200, maybe a consideration especially for hotels/motels ORECK's traditional mass market venue.

Carmine D.



Hi Carmine,

I thought the same thing.  Nice but way too high in price.  However, I'd be just as interested in it without the UV thing.  Unfortuantely I saw no specs.

Venson

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #4   May 6, 2010 8:48 am
Venson wrote:
Hi Carmine,

I thought the same thing.  Nice but way too high in price.  However, I'd be just as interested in it without the UV thing.  Unfortuantely I saw no specs.

Venson



Hi Venson:

I would too.  I like the portable cann with attachments less the UV-C tool for cleaning above the floor on a ladder.  Perhaps ORECK plans a model more reasonably priced w/o the UV-C tool for the general buying public versus motels/hotels.  Or in combo with its uprights. 

Carmine D.

Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #5   May 6, 2010 10:27 am
Trebor wrote:
...
There is a commercial OBT upright made by Stein (Sebo) that is very nice at only 450.00.  Oreck WILL be offering a bagless upright, but dealer participation is optional. ...

So how does the commercial "Oreck" compare to Sebo uprights?

So who will be making the bagless upright?  It would be something if Oreck contracted with Dyson to make an bagless Oreck...

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #6   May 6, 2010 1:37 pm
Severus wrote:
So how does the commercial "Oreck" compare to Sebo uprights?

So who will be making the bagless upright?  It would be something if Oreck contracted with Dyson to make an bagless Oreck...


Hello SEVERUS:

The local hotel/Casino requested bids for vacuums when it opened in November 2007.  ORECK and SEBO made the cut so the locals had a match off.  The performances were so close, while the prices so divergent, that the casino execs split the buy evenly: ORECK and SEBO.  I see the staff using the vacuums equally and satisfied. 

Your suggestion is a good one.  The problem is one I raised awhile back with dyson.  Sir James would have to eat crow after his bad mouthing of bagged vacuum makers.  It was a stupid business approach on dyson's part.  Has come and will continue to haunt him. 

Carmine D.

Severus


If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...

Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 397

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #7   May 6, 2010 1:57 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello SEVERUS:

The local hotel/Casino requested bids for vacuums when it opened in November 2007.  ORECK and SEBO made the cut so the locals had a match off.  The performances were so close, while the prices so divergent, that the casino execs split the buy evenly: ORECK and SEBO.  I see the staff using the vacuums equally and satisfied. 

Your suggestion is a good one.  The problem is one I raised awhile back with dyson.  Sir James would have to eat crow after his bad mouthing of bagged vacuum makers.  It was a stupid business approach on dyson's part.  Has come and will continue to haunt him. 

Carmine D.


I think a bagless Oreck with utilizing features from both Oreck and Dyson could be ideal.  Oreck could  help Dyson to be more user friendly.

The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable.  The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking. 
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #8   May 6, 2010 2:15 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Hello SEVERUS:

The local hotel/Casino requested bids for vacuums when it opened in November 2007.  ORECK and SEBO made the cut so the locals had a match off.  The performances were so close, while the prices so divergent, that the casino execs split the buy evenly: ORECK and SEBO.  I see the staff using the vacuums equally and satisfied. 

Your suggestion is a good one.  The problem is one I raised awhile back with dyson.  Sir James would have to eat crow after his bad mouthing of bagged vacuum makers.  It was a stupid business approach on dyson's part.  Has come and will continue to haunt him. 

Carmine D.



Reminds me of the consultant who advised the client to keep away from Dyson.
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #9   May 6, 2010 2:16 pm
Severus wrote:
I think a bagless Oreck with utilizing features from both Oreck and Dyson could be ideal.  Oreck could  help Dyson to be more user friendly.



Oreck might also get a vacuum that deep cleans as part of the deal.

Read your PM.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #10   May 6, 2010 2:30 pm
Frankly I don't think it is wise for Oreck to consider any bagless system - they have always pride themselves as a bagged vacuum cleaner company and how they would get around suggesting a bagless vacuum can sit in their family range of "healthy" vacuums is beyond me.
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: New Oreck vacuums
Reply #11   May 6, 2010 2:41 pm
vacmanuk wrote:
Frankly I don't think it is wise for Oreck to consider any bagless system - they have always pride themselves as a bagged vacuum cleaner company and how they would get around suggesting a bagless vacuum can sit in their family range of "healthy" vacuums is beyond me.


Could it be because sales are lagging for bagged?  Local stores only have about 1 bagged out of every 10 display machines.  Bags are also not so abundant as in the past.
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