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HARDSELL
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #115 May 3, 2010 10:27 am |
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The Shark Navigator Pet is classified as a lightweight at 15 pounds. Comes with a 5 year warranty. Tools and hose length for stairs equal those of a full size vacuum making it a formidable contender against full size uprights and canisters. I believe you are posting a picture of a previous and earlier Shark Navigator, not the latest. Much to the chagrin of other bagless uprights the Shark Navigator Pet has the claim: Never loses suction embedded into the vacuum. After all the industry dust up on this claim, I contend the washable cyclones and twice yearly filter cleaning on Shark Navigator [vice the dyson 4-6 times per year cleaning and others] make the difference in the usage of the product claim with Shark Navigator. The brush roll in size and form on the Shark Navigator is comparable to a decent size power head nozzle. Better easily IMHO than a DC24 which sells for $399. As good a brush roll perhaps even better than an ORECK. Shark Navigator is slightly stiffer. I don't believe CR has rated and reviewed yet. It should be interesting to see how well it fares. Carmine D. So if 32 idiots use the Navigator to vacuum leaves, mulch, etc. and do not empty it or never wash the filters it will not lose suction? It is not full sized and a negative (from owners) is the inferior sized dust cup. Too much emptying.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #116 May 3, 2010 10:34 am |
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To dyson's credit, it finally after 8 consecutive years of worst uprights and cyclinders ratings in Europe earned respect from Which? for its products. Sadly, it hasn't done the same in the USA with Consumer Reports. Got on the fringes of top 10 with DC17 at a 10/11 rating but never higher. Some here indluding dyson fans maintained that winning CR's respect in the reviews and ratings was tantamount to success. Hasn't happened yet and it's been 8 years since the USA launch. Carmine D.
One Hoover fan told us that at least a half dozen Hoovers would be the demise of Dyson. He also said that CR ratings and Wal Mart pulling Dyson from shelves would be the demise of Dyson. One Dyson user disagreed with you. Hoover failed and sold out. Dyson sales are good to excellent despite CR. Hoover USA flopped. CR and the biased Hoover fan hasn't stopped Dyson's success. Oh, the Hoover fan had to find another brand.
In 8 years Hoover, CR and a relic haven't slowed Dyson.
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Severus
If my vacuum can remove even one spec of dirt that yours misses, then mine is better than yours - even if there's no proof that mine would have picked up as much dirt as yours...
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #118 May 3, 2010 11:52 am |
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One Hoover fan told us that at least a half dozen Hoovers would be the demise of Dyson. He also said that CR ratings and Wal Mart pulling Dyson from shelves would be the demise of Dyson. One Dyson user disagreed with you. Hoover failed and sold out. Dyson sales are good to excellent despite CR. Hoover USA flopped. CR and the biased Hoover fan hasn't stopped Dyson's success. Oh, the Hoover fan had to find another brand. In 8 years Hoover, CR and a relic haven't slowed Dyson.
Hardsell,
I beg to differ. CR ratings for the Dyson are NOT bad. In fact, for the most part they score "very good." Certainly, the lightweight uprights might have slipped into the "good range" 41-60, but the full size Dysons generally score in the "very good" range of 61 to 80. Way too much is made of the rankings - which depend a lot on which vacuums are included and excluded.
This message was modified May 3, 2010 by Severus
The smart tyrant writes his own story to ensure that it is favorable. The lazy will repeat lines from the book without fact checking.
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #120 May 3, 2010 1:23 pm |
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Hardsell, I beg to differ. CR ratings for the Dyson are NOT bad. In fact, for the most part they score "very good." Certainly, the lightweight uprights might have slipped into the "good range" 41-60, but the full size Dysons generally score in the "very good" range of 61 to 80. Way too much is made of the rankings - which depend a lot on which vacuums are included and excluded.
Dyson reliability ratings have been very good. Of course, it's really been just the last 4 years of the 8 and CR may just be catching up with the vacuum problems in their customer surveys.
Carmine D.
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HARDSELL
Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Shark Navigator - a flagrant Dyson copy at 1/3 the price?
Reply #122 May 3, 2010 11:22 pm |
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Nutshell Hardsell: You're taking this much to personal. This is business and product pros and cons not personal. Talking about getting personal, have you had to get up close and personal with all the rain lately? Saw a bunch of toyota and lexus vehicles on the news stranded in water in your neck of the woods and had to wonder if the owners deliberately let them to sink. Carmine D.
If not personal how could I call you out? I expected you to twist on the ropes after being knocked on you ash again.
How did you identify the vehicles when only the roof was visible? Dyson must have punched you too hard again. Local sources reported that an old geezer in an Explorer caused the problem. When rescued he said that he thought his vehicle would float because it was full of hot air and balloons fly when filled with hot air. The Lexus and Toyotas went in to rescue the old coot and the water rose suddenly.
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