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Hertz


Joined: Jan 31, 2010
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Incredible new Bosch vacuums.
Original Message   Apr 13, 2010 12:16 pm
Look at these gems: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNBxAE1FWyU Seem to get good reviews, too: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-BSG8PRO1GB-Cylinder-Vacuum-Cleaner/dp/B001E5CBRU/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=kitchen&qid=1271175245&sr=1-6 Does anybody here have any personal experience with Bosch? Are they Made in Germany? I do believe these new machines are, like Bosch's REAL products; not their somewhat decent but simply re-badged bagless upright that was supposedly a Vax and Dirt Devil re-name. Not even sure if that's true. But anyways check out that new bagless machine. A German-Made bagless?! This should be sweet. That new technology looks very interesting, too :D Ten year motor warranty, as well. Very impressive!
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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Incredible new Bosch vacuums.
Reply #3   Apr 13, 2010 3:03 pm
Hi Hertz,

For you and anyone else interested, I've attached a link to the bagless GS-60's instruction PDF.  This cleaner uses a pleated filter withing the collection bin that is claimed to be self-cleaning.

http://www.bosch-home.co.uk/Files/Bosch/Gb/en/Document/Instruction_manual_GS-60.pdf

Meant to add that there are at least two not one new Bosch bagless machines.  One offers a manually operated mechanism to clean the pleated filter and the toher has a motor operated device that shust the cleaner off and "cleans" the filter automatically.

Venson

This message was modified Apr 13, 2010 by Venson
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Incredible new Bosch vacuums.
Reply #4   Apr 13, 2010 8:36 pm
Hertz - the machines are made in Germany but what you've listed on Amazon is the OLDER Bosch models and I've sampled quite a few. Although they are well made they aren't as well built as Miele or Sebo. For a start ALL of the tools and pipes are friction fit only and they can fall out in use. The hose handle is also very cheaply made whilst the tools on board sit in a plastic tray that can get lost over time. Although I'm not a fan of Bosch vacuums they aren't badly made, but in the UK bags are not as nationally available as Sebo or Miele.

The latest Bosch vacuum, the Free 'e model is much better thought out and is a new range in the UK and Europe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRF9qjHkASY
vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Incredible new Bosch vacuums.
Reply #5   Oct 2, 2010 11:18 pm
Here's the latest from Siemens. Expect a Bosch equivalent any time soon: taken from www.appliancist.com/green_appliances/siemens-vacuum-cleaner-offers-green-power.html



"...The new Siemens Z 5.0 is the premium compact vacuum cleaner capable of achieving a very impressive 47-liter per second suction rate. This compact powerhouse comes with the special Siemens motor that employs the latest super efficient XTRM compressor technology, providing the basis for such an incredible performance. With the Z 5.0 Extreme Power edition, you are getting a highly optimized air flow, making it an alternative to the larger Z 6.0 Extreme Power which creates 50-liter power per minute rate...The old equation a lot of watts = more power is no longer valid in modern vacuum cleaners. What ultimately matters is the force that is actually applied to the carpet. The air flow is much more relevant as it indicates how much air is drawn per second. And more air per second means more dust and dirt gets vacuumed. The compact Siemens Z 5.0 Extreme Power has a 4.5 liter dust bag while its hose and intake manifold diameter is 20% larger than those of the regular vacuum cleaners. The result is lesser air resistance, turbulence and fewer bottlenecks that typically slow down the air flow.

The vacuum also comes with the Siemens washable Ultra HEPA filter and the high-quality MegaAir SuperTex filter bag to hold back even the smallest particles. When you change the filter bag, a special hygiene seal ensures that no dust or dirt to return to the outside, making the Siemens Z 5.0 compact vacuum suitable for allergy sufferers..."

The new Siemens Z6.0 comes in two powerful and extremely efficient models, the Z6.0 Power and the Z6.0 Eco. Boasting the symbolic green power cord, these vacuums are setting the bar high in terms of environmental features and operating economy. Using lower wattage but delivering top performance, each energy saving vacuum offers a new dimension in floor care. Siemens Z6.0 cleaners combine the enhanced efficiency, offered by the Siemens compressor technology with a new aerodynamic system, designed to improve airflow within the cleaner. This results in up to 50% savings on electricity plus a significantly increased air throughput. And the new, green tagged air guidance system releases airflow blockages and prevents the air swirls that impair efficiency. To match their advanced aerodynamic system, both models feature innovative and powerful motor fans that resemble an aircraft turbine. Due to their aerodynamically-shaped impellers that reach a top speed of 800 kph, these Siemens vacuum cleaners convey exceptionally high air volumes while minimizing energy consumption..."






Despite the claims its a pity the main exhaust filter is at the top, giving owners a free hot facial not doubt just like Miele.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Incredible new Bosch vacuums.
Reply #6   Oct 3, 2010 7:11 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Here's the latest from Siemens. Expect a Bosch equivalent any time soon: taken from www.appliancist.com/green_appliances/siemens-vacuum-cleaner-offers-green-power.html



"...The new Siemens Z 5.0 is the premium compact vacuum cleaner capable of achieving a very impressive 47-liter per second suction rate. This compact powerhouse comes with the special Siemens motor that employs the latest super efficient XTRM compressor technology, providing the basis for such an incredible performance. With the Z 5.0 Extreme Power edition, you are getting a highly optimized air flow, making it an alternative to the larger Z 6.0 Extreme Power which creates 50-liter power per minute rate...The old equation a lot of watts = more power is no longer valid in modern vacuum cleaners. What ultimately matters is the force that is actually applied to the carpet. The air flow is much more relevant as it indicates how much air is drawn per second. And more air per second means more dust and dirt gets vacuumed. The compact Siemens Z 5.0 Extreme Power has a 4.5 liter dust bag while its hose and intake manifold diameter is 20% larger than those of the regular vacuum cleaners. The result is lesser air resistance, turbulence and fewer bottlenecks that typically slow down the air flow.

The vacuum also comes with the Siemens washable Ultra HEPA filter and the high-quality MegaAir SuperTex filter bag to hold back even the smallest particles. When you change the filter bag, a special hygiene seal ensures that no dust or dirt to return to the outside, making the Siemens Z 5.0 compact vacuum suitable for allergy sufferers..."

The new Siemens Z6.0 comes in two powerful and extremely efficient models, the Z6.0 Power and the Z6.0 Eco. Boasting the symbolic green power cord, these vacuums are setting the bar high in terms of environmental features and operating economy. Using lower wattage but delivering top performance, each energy saving vacuum offers a new dimension in floor care. Siemens Z6.0 cleaners combine the enhanced efficiency, offered by the Siemens compressor technology with a new aerodynamic system, designed to improve airflow within the cleaner. This results in up to 50% savings on electricity plus a significantly increased air throughput. And the new, green tagged air guidance system releases airflow blockages and prevents the air swirls that impair efficiency. To match their advanced aerodynamic system, both models feature innovative and powerful motor fans that resemble an aircraft turbine. Due to their aerodynamically-shaped impellers that reach a top speed of 800 kph, these Siemens vacuum cleaners convey exceptionally high air volumes while minimizing energy consumption..."






Despite the claims its a pity the main exhaust filter is at the top, giving owners a free hot facial not doubt just like Miele.


Nice vacmanuk.  What ae the price ranges?

Carmine D.

Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Re: Incredible new Bosch vacuums.
Reply #7   Oct 3, 2010 9:25 am
Nice but I wonder if Bosch plans to venture again into the American market.  It pulled out a couple of years ago because it wasn't getting enough of a return for the effort.

Venson

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Incredible new Bosch vacuums.
Reply #8   Oct 3, 2010 10:58 am
Dont know the price ranges as yet Carmine - but I'm speculating that since they are based on the expensive Free'e series, they will be highly priced and put into Miele S5 territory.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Incredible new Bosch vacuums.
Reply #9   Oct 4, 2010 7:28 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Dont know the price ranges as yet Carmine - but I'm speculating that since they are based on the expensive Free'e series, they will be highly priced and put into Miele S5 territory.



Tough market and price range to launch new products in now.  S2 venue would be more realistic epsecially in current economic times.  Then move up into the S5 territory.

Carmine D.

vacmanuk


Location: Scotland UK
Joined: May 31, 2009
Points: 1162

Re: Incredible new Bosch vacuums.
Reply #10   Oct 4, 2010 9:13 am
CarmineD wrote:
Tough market and price range to launch new products in now.  S2 venue would be more realistic epsecially in current economic times.  Then move up into the S5 territory.

Carmine D.


Nope. The Siemens/Bosch have a compact line up already - this series would be premium, sitting alongside Miele S5.
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Incredible new Bosch vacuums.
Reply #11   Oct 5, 2010 7:08 am
vacmanuk wrote:
Nope. The Siemens/Bosch have a compact line up already - this series would be premium, sitting alongside Miele S5.



That is true for your side of the pond, vacmanuk.  Not here in the USA.  No vacuums at all from Bosch as yet.

http://www.bosch-home.com/us

Breaking into the US market, if Bosch does, at the TOL full size price range [$1000] would be difficult for Bosch but not impossible.  More appropriate to start with the compact $300 S2 range and work up IMHO.

Carmine D.

M00seUK


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Points: 295

Re: Incredible new Bosch vacuums.
Reply #12   Dec 9, 2010 11:55 am
An advert for the Bosch with the line '50% energy saving with no loss of performance.' has today been banned in the UK by the ASA, due to lack of evidence to back up the claim.

http://www.which.co.uk/news/2010/12/dyson-complaint-about-ad-for-rival-vacs-is-upheld-238966/

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