This is a curious product for sale at a leading wholesale club. The reviews seem to be very good.  The interesting thing is that it is bagless with a dual self cleaning filter system.   apparently, a dummy light comes on when it's time to switch from one filter to the other.  Anyone have any experience with this vacuum?  Is the self cleaning filter design good? 

Electrolux® Twin Clean™
Bagless Canister with Pet Kit

Electrolux® Twin Clean™
Bagless Canister with Pet Kit

Dual HEPA Filtration
Crevice & Dusting Brush &
Bonus Pet Kit Included

vacmanuk wrote:

Hi vacmanuk,

Thanks for both video links.  The first I found very informative. 

 The power nozzle demoed  in the the second video (when will they ever do these videos where there's a dirty rug around)  has been sold with certain Electrolux models but usually in tandem with a full-size power nozzle as with the model EL7025A (standard power nozzle, low profile PN and bare floor tool all included).

 I had an Electrolux AB EL7020A vacuum that used it in place of a standard size PN.  It performed about as well as a decently made straight suction rug tool with a little less effort required.  In that sense I found no fault as I was dealing with low pile carpeting that could be cleaned easily with just about anything. The reason it and the cleaner it came with ended up back at the store's merchandise return desk in a matter of days is that the little wheels on the end of the nozzle popped off after catching on the edge of a floor tile that had an edge that had lifted slightly.  Not my idea of sturdy, especially at the price I got it for.  I was further motivated by the postage-stamp size bags the cleaner used.

I think the equivalent of the 7025A may also still be selling under the Sanitaire name as well.  However, though I think the idea of a low profile electrically powered rug nozzle is pretty cool, the standard size power nozzle is what's being pushed and more or less expected here.  There's not much advantage offered here if all that's needed for better control is switching down motor speed..

Venson

Despite the floor head choice, don't you think it's shocking that even with realistic views from the videos shown, the idea of Electrolux's auto cleaning functioning filters are somewhat let down by the central one that gets clogged and then shuts off?

vacmanuk wrote:

Keep in mind I have not read the instructions and/or sampled this cleaner in the store/at home.  So I'm answering your question with an observation from a 60 second video and knowledge of the the twin clean, not experience with it.

I'm thinking the self-cleaning filters are the first and primary source of filtration before the central [secondary filter] kicks in to do the work before the bin dirt is contained.  If the dirt bin is dumped and replaced empty at frequent intervals the central filter, tho a impediment if clogged, will be less so.

Carmine D.

vacmanuk wrote:

Hi vacumanuk,

My God!  What I wouldn't give to be young and delusional enough to be shocked again . . .

People are people and I don't presume to know the real deal on the effect that design, bright ideas and hype have on Europeans.  Although, yes we all have our hopes, I've always come away with the impression of there being a gentler and , to wit, more sane frame of mind  abroad when it comes to gadgetry.  Elexctrolux AB, like a lot of other vacuum makers, has on occasion shown some nice ideas and nice styling.  Nonetheless, the larger part of what has been put out for us on the vacuum market has often missed the mark when it comes to promises not being quite fulfilled.

I have never been fond of the Twin-Clean even since it was first set out on the shelf and think the filtering and collection mechanism(s) are a bit over involved and also think a different approach to a bagless design could have saved some bulk or made better use of it if no practical.  I'll even go so far as to say that this dual filtration gizmo is meant more a lure for sales than a design perspective actually anticipated to do us much good.

The same as in matters of finance -- and romance -- only a couple of things apply significantly when it comes to vacuums.  What are you bringing to the table?  What have you got that I can use?  There's always lots of talk and promises by vacuum makers to, shall we say, help get their hands past the public knee but what's talk.  Nothing!

Therefore -- yes  -- I am always disturbed over the inability of new, especially new and pricey vacuums to match up to the hype being used to push them off store shelves and that, further still, prove unable to do what I could do with an old Electrolux Model XXX (not necessarily my favorite vacuum cleaner).

Best,

Venson

Well Venson that isn't the worst design of Electrolux's current ranges. The prize for bad design in my book goes to that awful Intensity model. When I first saw it, it reminded me of a single hand / single spine rotary lawn mower we had in the 1980s under the Black and Decker & Qualcast brands.

Hi vacmanuk,

It reminded me of a lawn mower too.  The idea was to concentrate suction by eliminating lengthy airways and lessening teh reduction of suction by way of leaks and friction from fan to floor.  I suppose that was achieved.  (Oreck uprights employ the same idea.  Fan chamber right down there on the floor and a short airpath to get you some bang for your buck.) However, the Infinity suffered from a most ungainly shape and -- worse yet -- no attachments.  Back in the '70s Eureka came out with a model or two that had motor, brush roll and disposable bag all under the lid of the cleaning head that were a heck of a lot prettier.  Nonetheless, they did not last long on the market.

By the way, whatever happened with the Miele "Art" series? I think they'd have been truly great if there'd be a way to work in a revolving brush.

Venson

On a positive note, price is down from $299 to $170.  Has a cord rewind [like the twin clean].  Only 16 pounds, officially classified as a lightweight.  Easy to store away due to the collapsable handle].  Excellent rug performer.  As I recall in a suit filed by the former CEO of a big box bagless brand against the Intensity, a panel of vacuum industry experts/pros found that the Intensity claim that it outlceaned the bagless brand by 60 percent [EVEN WITH A FULL BAG] was accurate, truthful, and correct.

Carmine D.

Venson wrote:
Carmine, Venson etc
For a start the Intensity uses a high filtration synthetic dust bag so it's no surprise it has down well in tests. However like the Miele D'Art series (where it is still sold in some countries) the fact that you have to bend down all the way to the floor (or I suppose you could lift it up, but can all walks of life do it?) to change the bag.

The Miele D'Art wasn't particularly successful despite their arty colour finishes and has become a rarity find on EBAY UK. Most owners complain of a lack of pick up and no wonder - no beater bars and a suction only floor head with a small 2.5 litre dust bag has sealed its fate despite it being very versatile with its swap around tube/to suction. It also clogs easily because of the dust channel to the bag which sits at an angle. Also the tool caddy on some of the models are known to break off. My own tool caddy clip holder on my old S4 is about to crack one final time.

How often does one change the bag?  To mind bending down to do so?  Vice wrapping the cord on a DC24?  Or dumping a smallish tiny dirt cup after every use or two?  All relative pain/effort.  Choose your poison.  Most would say, like me, that having a lightweight high air filtered bagged rug cleaner that consistently proves it can outclean the supposed TOL bagless [EVEN WITH A FULL BAG VICE THE EMPTY BIN] is worth the occasional costs and replacing of bags every so infrequently.

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Well Carmine the fact the Miele D'Art has a small dust capacity means owners were usually changing them in less than a month. Regardless of the "bottom fitted," dust bag, for the price paid for a premium machine the D'Art wasn't successful. It clogged too often, had a great foot pedal activated cord rewind however and the ability to have its handle turned into a suction tube. NOT the most ideal vacuum for elderly people who may find grasping and bending over difficult. The whole idea of the Miele D'Art was offering customers something different in an upright design. Not a standard vacuum cleaner by any means not only judged by its various body finishes, colours or spec. That the design clogged on the very basis of its function however must be questioned. You really don't like the idea of bagless do you? Bagless mini vacuums aren't that bad - its what the owner's expectations have of them that often go against their "natural," function.

If you were to offer me a free Dyson upright and a free Oreck or even a free D'Art, I'd take the Dyson!