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Venson
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How to kill the market . . .
Original Message Feb 15, 2010 11:42 am |
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Hi, As I was looking for other information, I discovered that TTI, the present maker of Hoover, has come up with a "new" Royal canister vacuum. Someone please check me out on this but it appears that the Hoover S3670 has been given a new paint job, refitted with the power nozzle from the Platinum Bagless canister and re-branded as the Royal Model SR30020 - Lexon S20. Thar she is (notice the two generic throw aways aso in this new Lexon series at the top of the page) -- http://www.royalvacuums.com/Household/Canisters/lexon.aspx I can only imagine the sweat they broke into to come up with this. For reasons beyond economic, I think I've bought all the vacuums I'm going to for a while. Oh yeah, I forgot to ask if any of the dealers here has knowledge as to whether the little Royal tank-type with PN has been discontinued. Venson
This message was modified Feb 15, 2010 by Venson
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: How to kill the market . . .
Reply #27 Feb 19, 2010 1:35 pm |
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Hi guys, Just to set the record straight since DIB has already racked me up as a charlatan with dual personalities -- I believe the comment was not made in reference to bacteria but the dust mites Halo claim it killed. Remember them -- the household terror used to get folks to teh stores again? A standard vacuum will do in x-amount of dust mites in the process of its use but Halo never showed any real data other than that "one might reasonably expect" as to what manner of application of its UV light was required to prove it worthwile per its claims. Thank you, Norman Bates
Hello Venson:
As ORECK halo claims: Patented UV-C light chamber kills many of the germs, bacteria, mold, dust mite eggs, and flea eggs on your floors - in just a few seconds. And it’s chemical-free. 2-in-1 cleaning power in just one easy step. The UV-C light kills many of the germs and microbes on your floors, and powerful suction removes dirt, dust, and other debris just like all of our trusted vacuums. Unlike halo which falsely claimed, and was sued and lost, that no other vacuums did this except halo. ORECK truthed the claim in accordance with industry studies with the scientific results. Thanks Venson. Carmine D.
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Venson
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Re: How to kill the market . . .
Reply #28 Feb 19, 2010 4:08 pm |
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Hello Venson: As ORECK halo claims: Patented UV-C light chamber kills many of the germs, bacteria, mold, dust mite eggs, and flea eggs on your floors - in just a few seconds. And it’s chemical-free. 2-in-1 cleaning power in just one easy step. The UV-C light kills many of the germs and microbes on your floors, and powerful suction removes dirt, dust, and other debris just like all of our trusted vacuums. Unlike halo which falsely claimed, and was sued and lost, that no other vacuums did this except halo. ORECK truthed the claim in accordance with industry studies with the scientific results. Thanks Venson. Carmine D.
Hi Carmine,
I basically just wanted to clarify that dust mites not bacteria are killed during vacuuming and that I never stated or implied that vacuuming in any way does in germs. That said, the real issue is to what degree are dust mites done in with UV light. So Halo and its UV light can kill germs, dust mites and their larvae, yes. Neither Halo or Oreck clarify and plain facts woulds better cinch the deal. During that few seconds, per square foot I assume, has 10 percent, 50 percent or 75 percent of the existing little meanies on your floor eradicated. Terms like "some" and "many" aren't very helpful to a consumer possibly deciding to go to great expense to solve a perceived problem. There's no way for the average user to monitor the effectiveness of a device like this. Nor would I see reason to go out and buy one especially if it bears a high price tag just on the makers say so. If the maker said x-amount of seconds per x-amount of area assured x-percent of kill, I'd be fine with the whole thing. Unfortunately, they do not. You merely end up with people breezing around the house with a machine that may well make no significant difference affecting the problem it was bought to solve. Another matter not discussed is how often must such a machine be used to lower and maintain a lower infestation level. Good to know but not established. Venson
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CarmineD
Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: How to kill the market . . .
Reply #29 Feb 19, 2010 6:29 pm |
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Hi Carmine, I basically just wanted to clarify that dust mites not bacteria are killed during vacuuming and that I never stated or implied that vacuuming in any way does in germs. That said, the real issue is to what degree are dust mites done in with UV light. So Halo and its UV light can kill germs, dust mites and their larvae, yes. Neither Halo or Oreck clarify and plain facts woulds better cinch the deal. During that few seconds, per square foot I assume, has 10 percent, 50 percent or 75 percent of the existing little meanies on your floor eradicated. Terms like "some" and "many" aren't very helpful to a consumer possibly deciding to go to great expense to solve a perceived problem. There's no way for the average user to monitor the effectiveness of a device like this. Nor would I see reason to go out and buy one especially if it bears a high price tag just on the makers say so. If the maker said x-amount of seconds per x-amount of area assured x-percent of kill, I'd be fine with the whole thing. Unfortunately, they do not. You merely end up with people breezing around the house with a machine that may well make no significant difference affecting the problem it was bought to solve. Another matter not discussed is how often must such a machine be used to lower and maintain a lower infestation level. Good to know but not established. Venson
Thanks Venson. Clarification noted. I'm pleased that ORECK bought the rights to the UV-C technology and revised halo's false claim to truth. I think there is a niche market for this vacuum among germophobes. In fact would like to see it on the irobot if the price is right.
Carmine D.
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