Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

In the press today:-
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23711862-details/Dyson+with+more+revs+than+F1+racer/article.do

Product details:-

• Motor goes at 106,000rpm 'three times faster than any other motor'
• 200 watt motor
• 65/38 air watts (switchable power??)
• £129.99 GBP RRP, powered brush version £149.99

I think the devil will be in the other details, as we learn them. Presumably it's using the Dyson Digital motor? From the photo, the collection bin looks slightly deeper and has a more prominent release switch. It has improved max suction (DC16 has 36 air watts) so I'm presuming (nay hoping) that it can run in standard mode for more than 5mins and switch to a 'turbo' mode as needed?

I have prefectly good DC16, but I could be tempted by something with a longer run time and twice the already impresive suction for car cleaning.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Thanks DIB for distinguishing the moral and ethical indies who post here from the rift raft dealers that dyson franchises to repair its products. 

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

To start with DIB: 5 minutes on a 3-5 hour charge gives it limited usage in home, garage and car.  Are you not reading the posts here except your own.  You need 3-5 DC16 handhelds for any routine clean up job around the house and garage. 

Similarly if you own/use only one DC16, you best have a back up like a Black &Decker  and/or Dirt Devil to finish the job.  Come on DIB try and keep up here.  You ask the same silly nonsense over and over again. 

Severus is right about you.  Sir James must really be hardup to keep you on here as dyson's number one advocate.  The more you post the bigger dyson falls into a sink hole.  Take a cue from HS.  Clam it.  You lost the battle and the war here on dyson's DC16.  It's a collectable at best and an overpriced one to boot.  Just like the dyson's DC11.  Both were DOA. 

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

HI DIB

Id be more than happy to explain.......as i said.' reguardless of how great it does......it cant and wont do it for more than 5 -6 minutes tops at full power..if that.

not long enough to do more than a spilled ashtray on floor and sofa.....after that its nap time.....what if you make another mess between charge cycles?

6 min just isnt practical or useful enough to warrent the price tag.  The ddm is a great motor...awsome no doubt from all ive read and seen...but a poor choice

in a 6 min hand vac...now if it had a cord it would be a real threat....but not at the current price ....with a full sized fan in an upright i feel it will be a very powerful unit...

but overpriced , my opinion only....all in all ...run time and price will be the death of this one...no matter what class its in.

No plug no power....no matter who makes it....ill take the xtra time to plug up....better to have too much pwr/time than not enough.

turtle1

DysonInventsBig wrote:
CarmineD wrote:
Well, why not celebrate this/these so-called Dyson [hand picked] dealer/s by posting his/her businesses name here?  Turn-a-bout is fair play and you goofs think it’s okay and “just business” to bad mouth another man’s livelihood only so your livelihood flourishes - to sell competitive and/or much higher margin, belt and bag using (exclusive/only store in the area) brand.  Would you be so kind and name the Dyson-dealer bottom-feeders please. - The ones you say call Dyson products "cream of crap" and fail out during side-by-side demo's.


DIB

Back at you DIB:

Do your own dyson homework, business research and dealer detective work.  Get your nose out from under James and go out into the real vacuum world, not dyson fantasy land.  Who knows?  You might even learn something about the vacuum business once you can see daylight again!

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Interesting holier than thou righteousness on your part DIB.  James launched his bagless products on the backs of HOOVER and other vacuum execs who refused to buy [bye] in.  Dah!  Where you stand DIB depends on where you sit. By now we all here know where that is for you:  Right under James.  The self-proclaimed number one dyson advocate here. 

Dealers and vacuum makers are giving James/dyson a dose of its own medicine.  What's the matter?  Turn-about- is fair play, isn't it DIB.  You just said so.  What's wrong?  Doesn't taste so good going down does it when you are doing the swallowing?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
Why should I go anywhere when you freely offer up how the con works and how the con man thinks. 


DIB

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Seriously?... You cant get mad cause a dealer voices his opinion of a product when asked...some trash dyson more than others.   it is what it is.   You can also be a service center and not like what you service.....but you service to bring in money  so you can pay the bills and take care of your people...thats not only business....its taking care of business.  How much a dealer charges to work on a dyson is the dealers view...choice. on how they view the job and the time it takes them...not how long YOU think it will/should take...overcharging?.. are you there for all repairs?..everyday..day in day out?.. What a dealer carries is his/her choice and what sells good in the areas around you...your selling whats viewed as the best you feel is the best in vacuums.....most dealers hate anything bagless...period....and dyson falls in with it too.....gotta respect that view. the only way your gonna get the respect you feel dyson deserves is to open coast to coast dyson only serv. centers....that can and will solve all your dyson gripes....views ..opinions...points of view...james included.  To all who copied dyson...so what . they took current tech and made it at a far lower price..same perf and quality...poss better ..leaving the public to ask why does dyson charge way more for the same product.....same thing just diff name?....yet no answer for the public. No matter what vac you have..your gonna have usage costs....some more some less.........comes with your choice/what you picked. Many would say anybody who pushes a dyson is a con...of an overpriced $250-300 vac.....for 600+...but i say they gotta respect what you see in it...your views as to why its the best.....your right to choose.

all the comp did was make what dyson foot the bill for...and make it affordable /just as durable /poss better......capitalized on where dyson and his team fell short...saw it solved it and capitalized on it......cant get mad about that...gotta envy and respect the eyes and minds that caught it...and capitalized on it.

turtle1

DIB:

Don't you ever get tired and weary of posting the same sugar coated lies here.  Doesn't your conscience bother you?  No it can't.  You don't know enough about vacuums and the vacuum industry to have the conscience of a wise vacuum professional.  You're a babe in the woods.

The only 'con' game my dyson friend is being perpetrated by dyson.  The dyson ponzi scheme applied to its products has nothing to do with science.  Unless you are referring to sugar coated bull shine as science.  It's quite simple:  Overstate, falsify, and exaggerate dyson product claims with glitzy adds and marketing so you can overcharge consumers for mediocre products and performance.  Pay dyson pawns [like you] who know nothing about the vacuum industry and don't have the judgement/wisdom to know any better to talk up the dyson brand on public vacuum forums and with 5 star product reviews.  

Defend dyson's mediocrity in the vacuum industry at all costs against the independent truth tellers who post honestly and accurately about the ongoing problems with many dyson products.  Of which there are scores to name.   Build up the overpriced dyson brand as premium product by impugning the years old vacuum brands and models with established reps in the industry that outperform dyson models for much less hands down. 

That's the dyson game plan.  Always has been.  Probably always will be too.  Like all shams and ponzi schemes it can only work just for a little awhile.  Once the truth be known, the gig is up [to quote my friend MOLE here]. 

Oh sure dyson will be around like MIke W. says.  At least for the near future.  Lots of cult followers with PT Barnum signs posted on their foreheads.   But sooner or later, these too figure it out [you included] and fade away never to be heard from again. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Dyson did the world a big favor when they closed Hoover USA down. That stopped you from telling all your lies about Hoover slaying Dyson.

Now along comes DIB.  He keeps you occupied and criticizing Dyson.  No time left for your promo Oreck lies.

THANKS DIB.