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mole
 
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PRICING QUESTION
Original Message Oct 31, 2008 9:03 am |
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I would like to throw this question out........ If you are not a vacuum enthusiast or professional in the business. What would you pay for a vacuum cleaner[please disregard being sold by high pressure sales or hyped promotional advertising] $5.00, $ 20.00, $ 150.00, etc. I'M trying to see how the public in general sees this industry.......... Thanks MOLE |
HARDSELL
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Re: PRICING QUESTION
Reply #37 Dec 4, 2008 6:24 pm |
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Hello Dusty: Thanks for the info. I would not have bothered to research CR opinions on nitrogen, FWIW, since I am impressed and extremely satisfied with the nitrogen filled tires. Both of my FORD vehicles are SUV's with larger tire inflation capacities than 30 PSI. I suspect the air leakage for these larger tire capacities would be greater than the CR results for 30 PSI tire pressure. BUT....when the leakage is calculated as a percentage of the PSI inflation, the nitrogen percentage would be much lower. For me with SUV tires, this measurement is more meaningful for comparative analyses than absolute amounts of leakage based on one standard of 30 PSI tire pressure. Carmine D.
SUV's do not necessarilly carry a higher tire pressure. There are other factors to consider when inflating tires. Over inflation can cause as much tire wear as under inflation. What does the owners manual or the mfg. sticker in the door jamb recommend? Have you ever looked? Most tires have recommended pressures over 30 lbs. I run 34 lbs in my Ford Five Hundred.
Your SUV will not leak air any faster than a Yugo. I can add 3 lbs of air annually to my tires annually for 25 cents, You will have to pay severely for that 2 1/2 lb loss. I am sure that all would like to hear your documented changes in your vehicle since you started using nitrogen. Frankly, I think that your are inhaling too much of it.
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HARDSELL
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Re: PRICING QUESTION
Reply #38 Dec 4, 2008 6:25 pm |
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Consumer Reports bottom line, fwiw. The average loss of air-filled tires was just 3.5 psi from the initial 30 pressure setting. Nitrogen-filled tires lost an average of 2.2 psi from the initial 30 psi setting. More important, all tires lost air pressure regardless of the inflation medium, so consumers should check their tires' air pressure routinely. No evaluation was done to assess the aging claim. Bottom line: Overall, consumers can use nitrogen and might enjoy the slight improvement in air retention provided, but it's not a substitute for regular inflation checks.
Dusty Dusty, CR is full of BS. Unless it supports Carmine's argument.
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CarmineD
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Re: PRICING QUESTION
Reply #39 Dec 4, 2008 9:35 pm |
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Dusty, CR is full of BS. Unless it supports Carmine's argument.
Hello HS:
Is that another baking soda joke! Carmine D.
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CarmineD
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Re: PRICING QUESTION
Reply #40 Dec 5, 2008 8:29 am |
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Hello MOLE, and vacuum store owners/operators: With consumer spending at the lowest levels in 4 decades, what do you do to sell new vacuums, which I think we've established, have a fairly wide range of profitability. Do you stand your ground and follow the manufacturers' MSRP? Or do you take the route of the big box stores and slash prices drastically? With no regard to MSRP and MAP? For most of you, save maybe MOLE who has seen economic conditions like these before, perhaps not as bad, it's probably a new business playbook. What's your game plan for now and the future? Any thought given to the likelihood that your businesses/stores will close in the future? FWIW, some industry profesionals who were active posters here haven't checked in for awhile. Maybe they are out of business and/or soon will be, sadly. Carmine D.
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mole
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Re: PRICING QUESTION
Reply #41 Dec 5, 2008 9:20 am |
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Hi Carmine,in conditions like this you have to know how to adapt, we are not one dimensional,we do the whole business from sales to parts to rebuilts to centrals,all makes and models,if we dont have it you dont need it.We do not brand bash,there is no sense in it,We know how to price and give into a customer who pays CASH, Our shop rates are in line with everyone else,work is done by trained people who know how to do it right ,it s not a hobby for us,this business has been very good to me and my family. A very close friend of mine and yours in the wholesale/retail end of the business said hes loosing 6 to 10 dealers a week,and now has most everyone on C.O.D. It has to be done this way til things loosen up a little,Credit lenders are going bust and stopped doing business in some states. In some ways Carmine the way things are its actually good it weeds out the posers that were in it for the quick buck.We will strive to survive,this is not a reccsion its a depression. Sorry for the rant,but its reality.[Can i get a 34 billion bailout for running my business into the ground??????????????? MOLE |
dusty
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Re: PRICING QUESTION
Reply #42 Dec 5, 2008 9:58 am |
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G'day Carmine (and Mole) For us it's status quo, keep doing what we've been doing. We've never been one to follow MSP to begin with. Our pricing matches all the local department stores and our customers know this which is why they return to us over and over. Oddly enough we've actually seen an increase in our higher end stuff as people are telling us that they're tired of throwing away vacuums after a couple of years and can't afford to be doing it anymore. Our business also consists of Central Vacs, full repair service and a couple years ago we added hardwood / hard surface floor care products..an item that brings in many repeat customers and we all know, you can't have to many of those Dusty
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Lucky1
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Re: PRICING QUESTION
Reply #43 Dec 5, 2008 2:13 pm |
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Hi Carmine,in conditions like this you have to know how to adapt, we are not one dimensional,we do the whole business from sales to parts to rebuilts to centrals,all makes and models,if we dont have it you dont need it.We do not brand bash,there is no sense in it,We know how to price and give into a customer who pays CASH, Our shop rates are in line with everyone else,work is done by trained people who know how to do it right ,it s not a hobby for us,this business has been very good to me and my family.</p><p>A very close friend of mine and yours in the wholesale/retail end of the business said hes loosing 6 to 10 dealers a week,and now has most everyone on C.O.D. It has to be done this way til things loosen up a little,Credit lenders are going bust and stopped doing business in some states.</p><p>In some ways Carmine the way things are its actually good it weeds out the posers that were in it for the quick buck.We will strive to survive,this is not a reccsion its a depression.</p><p>Sorry for the rant,but its reality.[Can i get a 34 billion bailout for running my business into the ground???????????????</p><p>MOLE
Not unless you have a PRIVATE JET!!!!! LOL
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