Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Sadly your facts are askew.  MAYTAG, owner of HOOVER, sold out to TTI.  HOOVER was bought up by TTI.  There is a difference.  MAYTAG management not HOOVER is culpable.  The $2.1 BILLION price tag paid for HOOVER plus assumption of all its outstanding liabilities [including health and pension costs of the employees] speaks highly of the HOOVER brand name and its products.  Not many companies in the industry, save TTI, could come up with this dollar amount, either in cash/financing and both.

Dyson on the other hand over-engineers and over-prices its products.  Remember it wasn't business acumen that catapulted dyson to success.  It was winning 2 lawsuits and using the proceeds thereof to expand and export.  The current economic conditions make dyson vulnerable to competitors like HOOVER UK, TTI Floorcare of Glenwillow Ohio, and BISSELL.  Dyson can't compete in hard times.  It doesn't have the right product mix and prices.

Carmine D.

Innovation, if affordably priced, rules the market place.  Dyson over-engineers and over-prices dyson vacuums.  Knock-offs make the technology available to all who want it.  Same economic principle applies:  Who does it best for less is the market winner.  Especially in the current hard times.

Truth is the motivation and never goes out of style regardless whether all or noone believes it.  Dyson was floundering for years with his bagless vacuum until he won his first lawsuit against his US partner/licensee.  He plowed all the proceeds from the suit into the Malmesbury, UK plant in 1990 and dyson flourished in the UK.  It wasn't profits from the sale of his vacuums that were used to build the UK plant.

Similarly, dyson was strictly a UK vacuum due to the constraints of the Malmesbury plant.  When dyson won his second lawsuit against HOOVER UK, he used the proceeds to relocate production in Malaysia in 2000 and went global.  Globalization catapulted dyson into the Forbes BILLIONAIRE club which you always like to call attention to.  But it won't necessarily keep dyson there.  Now it will be profit from sales.

Carmine D.

Dyson wins a legal suit and investes the money.  Others steel his ideas and spend the money on themselves.

BTW, hoover had to drastically reduce its over priced products and still sunk.  One day you may get it right carmine, but not yet.

Nice to see you still keep a sense of humor when confronted with the truth even if it hurts.  But humor doesn't change the facts.  W/O the 2 lawsuit proceeds dyson as you know it today would not be.  Remember also that BEST BUY Execs convinced James to launch dyson vacuums in the USA in 2002.  Dyson wanted to wait a year or more.  Fortunately for dyson, James trusted BB's business judgement and timing over his own. 

The less expensive competition [knock-offs as DIB calls them] is carving away steadliy at new dyson sales with a host of worthy affordable bagless contenders: BISSELL, VAX, TTI and HOOVER UK.   Especially in today's economic hard times.  Add to the fray now, MIELE with a bagged versus bagless matchup on the big box stores' turfs!  The vacuum industry has the makings of a potential one-two knock out punch delivered against the highest priced bagless brand: your very own dyson.  Plus the latest two ASA rulings which have clearly put dyson in a very low industry standing: Losing to less expensive Electrolux Infinity and TTI/VAX models.

I trust you and DIB will still be around to act as pallbearers at the funeral. 

Carmine D.

Sadly your facts are askew.  MAYTAG, owner of HOOVER, sold out to TTI.  HOOVER was bought up by TTI.  There is a difference.  MAYTAG management not HOOVER is culpable.  The $2.1 BILLION price tag paid for HOOVER plus assumption of all its outstanding liabilities [including health and pension costs of the employees] speaks highly of the HOOVER brand name and its products.  Not many companies in the industry, save TTI, could come up with this dollar amount, either in cash/financing and both.

Dyson on the other hand over-engineers and over-prices its products.  Remember it wasn't business acumen that catapulted dyson to success.  It was winning 2 lawsuits and using the proceeds thereof to expand and export.  The current economic conditions make dyson vulnerable to competitors like HOOVER UK, TTI Floorcare of Glenwillow Ohio, and BISSELL.  Dyson can't compete in hard times.  It doesn't have the right product mix and prices.

Carmine D.

It's unreadable and can't be enlarged.  BTW you may want to read the TTI/HOOVER innvovations on the site posted by TTIpowerT.  Amazing how the vacuum industry survived and flourished for so many years with such lazy companies!