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DysonInventsBig


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Original Message   Jun 28, 2008 12:41 am

Dyson is in the news frequently and so a dedicated thread.

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CarmineD


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Reply #79   Jul 3, 2008 6:33 am
dusty wrote:
Jack already gave you an answer

That "upbend" thing slid off with a push of a thumb.  Kind of seems like it would come in handy to get stuff out that you probably shouldn't have run over in the first place.

Dusty


Dusty and JackD, you know well that the thumb tab was removed and the fitting retooled to the vacuum.  Maybe you don't Dusty, because of the Canada perspective.  Maybe JackD doesn't either if he didn't know the original design and function.  He may be late to the game too.  But surely Motor does.  And of course the person who is conspicuously absent, the dyson expert.  Matt mmc AirBlade who addressed this matter long ago on the Forums.  In fact he agreed with me.

Where you be Matt mmc?  Get this pack of dyson rabid fans off me.  They know not what they speak.

Carmine D. 

HARDSELL


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Reply #80   Jul 3, 2008 8:30 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hello menschkins:

Looks like it's time to gang up on the old vacuum guy.  Let me ask you learned gents who posted:  Did you look up the definition of "permanent" in the dictionary?  Would you care to and post it here?  You're good at that Dusty.  I suspected you would have by now.  Unless it shoots down your argument?  If you do, then we can intelligently debate it's application to the u bend joint and the majority/minority views?  How's that menschkins? 

For all the dyson fans who believe the u bend air way joint is a good vacuum design and application, [I think Dusty you posted that if not Jack D, or JimB, I can't keep track of you dyson guys when you post in packs] did dyson continue to use on models after the DC14?  For example.....  Why?Why not?

Carmine D.



I posted the definition 3 posts up.

The u joint is a permanent part of the DC07.  Always was.  It is not permanently attached as you implied.

My guess is the u bend is either not necessary or impractical to incorporate into the design of the models after the DC14.  Unlike you I will admit that I do not know the real reason.  It is irrevelant as we were talking about the DC07 and you did not know the facts.  Maybe Dyson should have left the tab on the joint.  A 40 year vet could not remove it without the tab.

CarmineD


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Reply #81   Jul 3, 2008 8:41 am
HARDSELL wrote:
 Maybe Dyson should have left the tab on the joint.  A 40 year vet could not remove it without the tab.


HS:

4 year old-s could and probably did!  Then store staffs with years of experience trained by former housewives [turned dyson reps] could't replace!    That IS the truth, my HS man.  That's the reason dyson corrected the design and function flaw in the u bend air way joint on subsequent DC-07's.  And subsequently scrubbed it on all the post DC14 models.  Word, my little menschins! 

Matt mmc, AirBlade, where are you?  This rabid dyson pack hath need of thee!  Won't accept the truth from a dyson critic.  Maybe you will be more successful?

Carmine D.

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mole


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Reply #82   Jul 3, 2008 9:09 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Dusty,

I think we now know for sure that the DC07 is not for the mentally challenged like the "TWISTER".



Is That why you got rid of your dyson??????????????????

MOLE

JackD


Joined: Jun 30, 2008
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Reply #83   Jul 3, 2008 9:24 am
CarmineD wrote:
Motor:

Here's the truth.  Within the first year of launch, dyson retooled the DC07 u-bend air way joint.  Making it permanent on the DC07-s and not removable.  It was removable originally on the first and early DC-07's supposedly to allow users to clear clogs/blockages.  It had a yellow thumb tab on it to depress to remove/attach.   

Carmine D. 



Ok so a few pages of debate had me curious so I called Dyson.  The lady I talked to get a bit of a chuckle when I asked about them making this piece "not removable".  She explained that the confusion probably comes from a change made in how it comes of making it necessary to bend down and use a hand as oppossed to pressing it down with a foot.  However, it is still very removable and both the instruction manual and their phone staff use than as one of the first places to "remove" and check for a larger object you may have sucked up in error. 

So was removable and still is removable but they did apparently change how you remove it.  The current way seems pretty easy to get off and on.  I would guess boths sides of the debate by now know it is still removable, but this debate is really more about personalities than the machines.

Airblade


Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 180


Reply #84   Jul 3, 2008 9:32 am
CarmineD wrote:
HS:

4 year old-s could and probably did!  Then store staffs with years of experience trained by former housewives [turned dyson reps] could't replace!    That IS the truth, my HS man.  That's the reason dyson corrected the design and function flaw in the u bend air way joint on subsequent DC-07's.  And subsequently scrubbed it on all the post DC14 models.  Word, my little menschins! 

Matt mmc, AirBlade, where are you?  This rabid dyson pack hath need of thee!  Won't accept the truth from a dyson critic.  Maybe you will be more successful?

Carmine D.


I've just been shaking my head at this crazy topic of conversation.  Jack D is correct.  The original u-bend was changed because it was mistaken as a foot pedal, however it is still removable by end users.
mole


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Reply #85   Jul 3, 2008 9:43 am
I agree MATT, is this where dysons typically get blocked?, From my experience with serviceing them the blocks are further up at the inlet hose and brushroll area.

All vacuums clog,no manufacturer other than dyson makes the claim that theirs dont.

Yes the early model 07 had the tabs for the duct removeal,many were off by accident and brought in for service,

My advice to dyson would be to take all the different angles that the air has to move through to get to the end of the system,this would also bring the high temperatures down to where the casings would not distort so much.

MOLE

Airblade


Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 180


Reply #86   Jul 3, 2008 9:47 am
mole wrote:
I agree MATT, is this where dysons typically get blocked?, From my experience with serviceing them the blocks are further up at the inlet hose and brushroll area.

All vacuums clog,no manufacturer other than dyson makes the claim that theirs dont.

Yes the early model 07 had the tabs for the duct removeal,many were off by accident and brought in for service,

My advice to dyson would be to take all the different angles that the air has to move through to get to the end of the system,this would also bring the high temperatures down to where the casings would not distort so much.

MOLE


The u-bend is a clogging point for only the wand.........there is no airflow through it when the brushroll is engaged.
mole


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Reply #87   Jul 3, 2008 9:53 am
Thanks Matt, does dyson use a built in divertor valve, for attachment use?

MOLE

Airblade


Joined: Jul 25, 2007
Points: 180


Reply #88   Jul 3, 2008 10:03 am
Not sure on the technical name.......but yes, there is a valve that automatically diverts the airflow
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