Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

1)  Nov 21, 2007 James Dyson t.v. commercial parodied on Saturday Night Live.

2)  March 17, 2009:  While many independent vacuum dealers bad-mouth, lie of and/or dismiss James Dyson and his teams contributions, many others champion the man.  Watch James Dyson in his element - in his Malmesbury Headquarters.  NBC’s “Today Show”  http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-us&vid=71fa9222-10d2-413c-bf31-0007895697ac

2)  Older video news:  I could not resist...  A Hottie car-news chick mentions the rumor of Dyson working with car makers, and Oreck gets a mention too (funny).

www.blinkx.com/video/hamann-stallion-audi-a7-fast-lane-daily-24jun08/JQ18e2m7y5hiULCgEQWSvw

HARDSELL wrote:

What good to provide proof?  First you deny it.  Then you don't read it.  Then you argur about it.  You're wasting time.

Tell me why dyson wants people to touch their toes to wrap a cord on the DC24 but writes in his autobiography that he doesn't want users bending down to fiddle with controls?  What's the difference?  Down is down. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Tell me why I have to get on my knees to turn off the brush roll on my Royal.  Why do I have to disassemble my Kirby to use the hose.  Why doesn't Oreck add a hose so the user does not have to dig out the 2nd vac then store an additional vacuum.  BTW, I hear reports that the little vac has a very small bag that has to be replaced too frequently.  A friend has one and it barely picks up dust off her wood floor.

I never noticed the Dyson cord being any more difficult to wrap than any other. I wonder why you wise guys did not mention that you do have to bend double to turn off the brush roll on the Dyson.  Disregarding that it is still mucheasier to use than an Oreck (I guess I mean two Orecks).  Is it any wonder the hotels never vacuum the baseboards or any other item requiring a hose.

HARDSELL:

Follow me here.  DC24 not DC07.  Have to bend down and touch your toes to wrap the cord.  Despite Mr. Dyson's pledge in his autobiography spouted here by all the dyson fans like you that dyson users will never have to bend over to fiddle with controls.  How do you and they reconcile the glaring contradiction?  Simple question.  Anyone have an answer relevant and worthy to post? 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

James states in his autobiography that he decided against adding a cord winder to the DC01 upright since they could be unreliable.

Based on a off-forum discussion with DIB and to answer claims that Dyson copied 'the ball' invention from somebody else, I'd like to share a short video clip showing the development process of this feature on the DC15 :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pPlYR6Hql8

M00seUK wrote:

Hello M00seUK:

I think he doesn't because its one more thing to go wrong.  More and more big box store vacuums have cord winders.  Even inexpensive models like the HOOVER Elite Rewind: $100, which is 3 years old now.  I mentioned my HOOVER cann for $50 has a cordwinder.  No problems with it.  It's a small vacuum and having the cord stowed away is wonderful for using and storing.

Now, you still haven't answered my question.  How do you and other dyson fans reconcile the statement in Mr. Dyson's autobiography with the gawdawful cord wraps on the DC24?  No bending over to fiddle with controls is the dyson mantra.  What happend on the DC24 bottom cord wrap?

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:
I presume Dyson's stance on the cord winder issue is if someone has a problem with wrapping the cord on the upright, they can look to purchase one of their canisters instead.

How does the cord wrap work on the DC24? I've only looked at it briefly in store. Is it different to the other Dyson uprights?

M00seUK wrote:

Hello M00seUK:

I use an upright for my daily use.  The HOOVER cann is a weekly and as needed user for above the floor and attachment cleaning.  A canister vacuum as a dialy user is not in my future.  Too much work and weight to pull out and use.  Too much effort when the upright is so convenient.

The bottom cord wrap on the DC24 [supposedly dyson's lightweight ball] is about 2 inches off the floor.  Worse possible location for people most likely interested in buying and using a lightweight upright.  Back problems, like me.  If I have to bend over and touch my toes every time I wrap the cord on a vacuum, I ain't buying it.

I have mentioned in the past and worth repeating here again.  One reason my dear WIfe and I loved the RICCAR upright and now the ORECK is the easy and high off the floor cord wraps.  

Carmine D.

M00seUK wrote:

Hello M00seUK:

It's entirely probable and possibly for two or more individuals to invent the same/similar things independent of each other and unknown to each other.  History has proven this time and time again with inventions, medical and scientific break throughs.  In the USA and overseas at the same time.  It's becoming less likely now because of the advancement in technology and instantaneous sharing of information.  Usually resulting in collaboration among people in professions.  In the case of dyson's ball technology, maybe not so likely with a student and business man.  But who knows? Maybe not so unlikely for Mr. Dyson to have known about the Kenneth J patent but remain silent until Kenneth J came forward. 

From my way of viewing, and probably most others who are not diehard dyson fans, it is quite natural and understandable to side with Kenneth J, the engineering student, who patented his version some 10 years before dyson.  Why?  For the very reason DIB cites so often for dyson against other vacuum makers.  Americans and I trust most others like and root for the underdog.  In this case, Kenneth J. not James D.

Carmine D.

M00seUK wrote:

Hi Moose,

Thank you converting and uploading this video.  I was somewhat disappointed with it's short duration, is there more of this Dyson video you can share?  If you post more (longer clip) can you bump up the quality too.  Many here have broadband and viewing hq video is no problem for us (or post 2 clips low and hi).  Thanks again.        DIB