Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Nice write up on the DC25 model by the way.  I forgot to mention about the filter in the ball housing!  So you where impressed by this model.  Now that I have test driven the DC25 I have to say I prefer it over my DC15!

DC18

Thats ok.  I have to say the DC25 is very impressive and it a very welcome leap forward from the DC15.  Yes the filter washing is a downside but the performance is a leap forward from previous models.  As for the filter washing I don't always wash mine every 6 months, i can go longer and the filter is not that dirty.  I think it depends on what your using the vac for and the area you live in.  So the 3 months on the DC25 I could probably get away with 6 months!!

DC18

The manufacturer's instructions for maintenance are generally based on average usage.  For vacuums, I suspect that's 2 times a week.  I would be very reluctant to make a general statement about circumventing the manual's guidance for the purpose of convenience especially from 4 times to 2 times in a 12 month period.  Why?  Sometimes you vacuum more than 2 times per week.  Or vacuum longer periods of time.  Eyeballing a filter to determine if it is clean/dirty is a very primitive means of knowing if it is.  Why? By the time the dust and dirt accumulates on the filter surface for the eye to see, the filters' pores are already saturated and degraded.  Heat from the motor's operation degrades the filter material/operation also.  Failing to perform the filter maintenance as recommended by the user guide, causes the motor to run hotter than usual.  Hotter running causes premature motor failure.

Carmine D.

The pre-filter on Dyson's clog over time.  Since Hoover sued Dyson and Oreck is currently suing Dyson over his "No Clogging" and/or "No Loss of Suction" claim etc., it has been interesting to watch and see how Dyson comes out.  "No Clogging" has been dropped from Dyson's marketing since the Hoover/Dyson settlement.  And for months following (Dyson's presented on HSN) there seemed a noticeable lack of mention or hesitancy saying  "No Loss of Suction" from "Dyson Dave" and the HSN hosts, until recently and today.  Today on HSN, the DC17 is being marketed as "No Loss of Suction" machine, and “The pre-filter needs to be cleaned every 6 months”.        DIB

I understand there is a new DC17 launched recently.  Is this the one on HSN?

Or is HSN selling the earlier model?

Carmine D.

DIB:

I have my answer.  It's the earlier model DC17 Absolute Animal on HSN for $449.  Good price.  But I've seen the latest dyson DC17 model available for $499 before discounts. 

It will be very difficult for dyson from a practical point of view and business perspective to keep two different systems of filter maintenance for its venue of models.  My sense is that dyson will gradually phase out the 6 month filter cleaning routine for 3 months.  It's worth asking dyson rather than second quessing HSN. 

I thoroughly and wholeheartedly agree with your premise that the reason for the change is directly related to the lawsuits.  My sense is too that people can't remember to do the filter maintenance on 6 month intervals.  [Do you remember to change your Fridge water filter every 6 months? Or does it creep back to 8-10 months?].  3 months is easier for users to remember and follow.  If it slips a tad, 5-6 months is much better than 12 months.

I recall the last HSN dyson show I viewed [DC14 Animal], the filter maintenance was cited by Dyson Dave as 3, 4, 5, 6 months. 

Carmine D.

I agree with you on the filter maintenance and users should follow the guide.  Some don't always and wonder whay they have problems.  One of the reasons I don't wash my filters on my Dyson's is I don't use them the same amount as a normal user does!  Hence I get longer use out of them generally speaking!! 

DC18

DC18

And, also the Dirt Devil Kruz cordless hard floor cleaner stick vacuum for $90.  My sense was the DD Kruz was the biggest hit of all for the HSN staffer.  Note too that as a barefloor cleaner, it does not use oval hair brushes.  3 wheels for maneuverability and a straight brush strip. 25-30 minute operation time per charge.

Carmine D.

Re: pre-filter maintenance.

My very old Fantom Fury has a filter change indicator.  Stick one of these things on all Dyson uprights and canister vacuums and perhaps many problems will be solved.        DIB