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Acerone


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Dyson AirBlade
Original Message   Dec 12, 2007 5:44 am
Saw the Dyson Airblade commercial for the first time last night. Anyone else seen it yet?
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #13   Mar 29, 2008 7:38 am
Forbes is my source.  Of course, dyson is Forbes source.

Now, the question of whether the AirBlade sales are included in the $1B sales is more relevant.  $140,000 is immaterial on $1B.  $140,000,000 is very material. 

Assume for talking purposes the $140,000,000 is not in the $1B and the vacuum data is segregated [probably a good assumption].  Divide the $64 Million [dyson net profit] by wholesale units of dyson vacuums sold.  If you reasonably estimate 2 Million [USA] and 4 Million [worldwide] sold [based on NPD data], the dyson profit per unit is $16 to $32.  Say 3 MIllion worldwide [more reasonably], the net dyson profit is about $22 per vacuum sold at wholesale.  On the low side for profits for $1B in annual sales? ESPECIALLY AFTER 15 YEARS of operation.  

Sales increased 10 percent in 2007.  Dyson prices went from $400 in 2002 to $500 plus in 2007.  That's 25 percent increase.  Probably at least 10 percent passed on to retailers.   Did dyson unit sales increase?  No, probably not.  In fact, they may have gone down if sales dollars increased 10 percent on price increases of 25 percent.   And that's with increased markets and countries of sale!

Dyson would fare better as a retailer with $250 gross profit per vacuum sold before overhead and operating expenses.  The only problem now is that consumers aren't buying anymore.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #14   Apr 5, 2008 5:09 pm
mole wrote:
.....how about the airblade have they sold more than 50 units yet,I rather wipe my hands off on my trousers,,,,,,,HA, HA, HA,

SELL SELL SELL,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

THE -MOLE

many many more than 50 units........ Airblade
Sadly, the number and percentage of adult men who don't wash their hands after doing that particular function is mindboggling.  I don't think Mr. Dyson factored that into his business model for the airblade.  I don't foresee dyson staying in the hand dryer business for many years.  Why?  It's not his mainstay business, vacuums are. 
In the economic conditions dyson will face in the years ahead, he can't afford to hold onto the airblade.  Why?  Let's look at the facts:  It's going on 2 years old.  It costs $840 per unit to produce.  Sells for $1400.  Dyson sold 100,000 units.  Sales are $140,000,000.  Costs $84,000,000.  Profit is $56,000,000.  Not accounting for the 1000 units given away at a cost of $840,000.  On vacuum sales of $4 Billion [estimate for 2007] worldwide annually, who needs the headaches of an added $28 Million a year on a totally unrelated product. 
Divest.  Sell the airblade off to a company which is in the business of restroom facility products.  Cut future airblade losses.  Concentrate on vacuum sales to make up the $28 Million generated per year on the airblades. 
Carmine D.
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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #15   Nov 20, 2008 6:02 pm
A brand new casino recently opened in North Las Vegas.  All the amenities.  Imported crystal chandeliers.  Marble floors and columns.  $675 MILLION, over $400 MILLION financed. 

Unfortunately nothing from dyson from what I've seen so far.  Tho the restrooms utilize chrome hand dryers in lieu of paper/cloth  towels, they appear to be a competitor brand called XLerator.  Whoa!  What a hand dryer.  Small and compact and mounts on the wall like the soap dispenser.  The airlfow is activated by a sensor when you place your hands below.  And deactivated by the sensor when you remove your hands.  Quick, quiet, powerful and leaves your hands and wrists [arms if you are so inclined and use a unit on the wall not over the sinks]  as dry as the hot Las Vegas air.   Very impressive.  Don't know the price.  But I suspect worth every penny.  Due to it's size, appears easily adaptable for household use too. 

I did a quick time check by singing the happy birthday song!  By the time I was done singing, my hands were dry.  I suspect 10 seconds.  Nice thing, tho, the dryer keeps going until you remove your hands.  Less than 10 or more than 10 seconds.  No time limit.  Here's the Web site:

http://www.exceldryer.com/?gclid=CLOppo2FhZcCFQwNGgod51ei-Q

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #16   Nov 20, 2008 6:25 pm
CarmineD wrote:
A brand new casino recently opened in North Las Vegas.  All the amenities.  Imported crystal chandeliers.  Marble floors and columns.  $675 MILLION, over $400 MILLION financed. 

Unfortunately nothing from dyson from what I've seen so far.  Tho the restrooms utilize chrome hand dryers in lieu of paper/cloth  towels, they appear to be a competitor brand called XCelerator.  Whoa!  What a hand dryer.  Small and compact and mounts on the wall like the soap dispenser.  The airlfow is activated by a sensor when you place your hands below.  And deactivated by the sensor when you remove your hands.  Quick, quiet, powerful and leaves your hands and wrists [arms if you are so inclined and use a unit on the wall not over the sinks]  as dry as the hot Las Vegas air.   Very impressive.  Don't know the price.  But I suspect worth every penny.  Due to it's size, appears easily adaptable for household use too. 

I did a quick time check by singing the happy birthday song!  By the time I was done singing, my hands were dry.  I suspect 10 seconds.  Nice thing, tho, the dryer keeps going until you remove your hands.  Less than 10 or more than 10 seconds.  No time limit. 

Carmine D.



This is exciting Carmine.  We have had those hand dryers in TN for some time.  Good to know that the west is catching up with us red necks. 

I seldom use those things.  I wash my privates each morning so no need to wash my hands each time I visit the toilet.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #17   Nov 20, 2008 7:29 pm
Hello HARDSELL:

The word here in the great Southwest is that them there from your neck of the woods wash in the public toilets and dry off with the toilet paper. 

Carmine D.

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M00seUK


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Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #18   Nov 21, 2008 5:05 am
Carmine, I got the chance to try out the XCelerator recently. It's a quick as you say, but a major drawback I found was that the fast airflow tends to shoot the water off your hands and in to your face!
CarmineD


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Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #19   Nov 21, 2008 6:54 am
Hello M00seUK:

I can easily understand how and why.  It's a very powerful blower.  I can see when users dry their hands on the standalone unit on the wall and lean their head into the unit's blower air, the water blowback may be a problem.  In fact, I believe the stand alone unit which is mounted on the wall may be for drying hands and face, if a customer is so inclined.  [Them there from HS's neck of the woods].

I didn't have water blowback.  I suspect largely because the blower unit is mounted on the wall with the mirrors and soap dispensers, just inches above the sinks' counter.  And behind and off the sinks' counter.  At least a good arm and neck's length away from my face.   And the stationary air blower hole is under the unit.  Not on the front/side with a swivel opening.  So my wet hands are under and below the unit during blower operation.  Any hand water blowback is deflected by the bottom of the unit and/or lands on my wrists/arms and dries instantaneously. 

Also, after washing my hands, I shake the excess water into the sink.  Then dry with paper, towel, or machine.   Interestingly, the faucet spray and handshaking water that gets onto the sink counters and mirrors were dried too by the XCelerator's operation.  Less clean up after the fact of the unsightly water stains on the sink counters and mirrors.  

Most LV casino men's rooms have a full time attendant on duty to clean up after the male patrons who may toss paper towels on the floor and mess up the sink counters with water.  This casino's restrooms do not. 

BTW, I like the maker's logo.  "It's time to throw in the towel."

Carmine D. 

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #20   Nov 21, 2008 7:38 am
Hello M00seUK:

Besides winning the award of one of the top ten innovative products of the year, the Web Site gives current users of the XLerator.  THo made in the USA for the last 40 years, can you spot the conspicious unlikely user[s] that got my attention?

who's using the XLERATOR... 
 

Disney World

Hynes Convention CenterWestminster AbbeyKodak 
 

WALMART

Pizzeria Uno's Wembley StadiumHudson Bay 
 

UPS

Con-AgraBasketball Hall of FameBoston University 
 and many more!

Carmine D.
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mole


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Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #21   Nov 21, 2008 9:04 am
.Hey Carmine.

Are people still BLOWING money away in Vegas.

Can you give us the up to date line, on whos going to go bankrupt first,G.M .CHRYSLER,OR FORD.......

Heres a tip for the gamblers in VEGAS stay away from the windows, is your house worth %25 or % 50, less than a year ago.......

MOLE

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #22   Nov 21, 2008 12:54 pm
Hey Carmine.

Are people still BLOWING money away in Vegas.

Hi Mole: 

Alot fewer and alot less.  Gaming stocks, once all the rage here in Vegas due to the tourism industry, are way down.  Most new construction on the Casino/Hotel's is halted indefinitely, including Trump's second tower and the St. Regis [new addition to the Palozzo and Venetian].  You may have read/heard that the CEO of the MGM Grand Mirage,Mr. Lanni, resigned under very suspicious circumstances.  Most of the Casino/Hotel's have cut back on the frequency and amounts of their payouts by the slots and bingo games.  All have cut staff and operations drastically.  The unemployment rate here in Nevada is over 8 percent, one of the highest in the nation.

Can you give us the up to date line, on whos going to go bankrupt first,G.M .CHRYSLER,OR FORD.......

Yes, in this order:  GM, Chrysler and lastly Ford.  Ford is in the best financial shape of all and most likely can survive, despite the hard economic times.  The big 3 will get their $25 BILLION plus after they submit their business cash needs in early December 2008.  All the Congressional flack is just for show.  The auto industry makes considerable political campaign contributions to Senators and House members in key states and Congressional committee positions.  These politicians will lobby behind the scenes for the big 3.  After Mommy Pelosi announced that Congress would not oblige the demands of the big 3 yesterday, the market tanked 444.99 points.  Not too bright on Pelosi's part. 

Heres a tip for the gamblers in VEGAS stay away from the windows, is your house worth %25 or % 50, less than a year ago.......

Due to the recent casino/hotel opening, the houses in my community hit bottom and turned up and their long term price trend is up.  However, here's the clinker:  When the CFO of the new casino/hotel appeared recently to testify and answer questions, he was asked point blank:  Will the new casino/hotel revenues meet the debt and bank covenants.  His reply was:  I don't know.  Since $400 MILLION of the effort is financed, it's a huge amount to meet monthly, not counting costs for operation.  Some rumors are circulating that as early as this January 2009, the owners may ask for bankruptcy proceedings.  Rumors!  I think that is too early but by spring/summer after several months and quarters, it could very likely happen if gaming revenue is down.  The gaming money feeds the hotels, entertainment, and restaurants.  If its down, so is everything else. 

Time will tell.  Best case scenario, a turn around by the end of 2009.  Worse case scenario, no turn around until 2012. 

Carmine D.

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