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Acerone


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Dyson AirBlade
Original Message   Dec 12, 2007 5:44 am
Saw the Dyson Airblade commercial for the first time last night. Anyone else seen it yet?
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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #10   Mar 27, 2008 6:47 pm
Here is a synopsis of dyson Airblade [hand dryer] sales according to a reliable source:

Since it's launch in the summer of 2007, total Airblades sold are 100,000

Total sales in dollars:  $140,000

Cost to dyson to produce each unit: $840

Retail price: $1400 {about 3X as much as traditional hand dryers].

It has not taken off as quickly and well as dyson hoped. 

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #11   Mar 27, 2008 7:46 pm
CarmineD wrote:
Here is a synopsis of dyson Airblade [hand drier] sales according to a reliable source:

Since it's launch in the summer of 2007, total Airblades sold are 100,000

Total sales in dollars:  $140,000

Cost to dyson to produce each unit: $840

Retail price: $1400

It has not taken off as quickly and well as dyson hoped. 

Carmine D.



How long can Dyson lose $838.60  per unit?
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #12   Mar 28, 2008 9:28 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
Acerone,

James Dyson was interviewed in Forbes recently and the topic of conversation was his Airblade.  Here.



Per the Forbes Dyson interview (link above)…

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Airblade - $140,000,000 in sales:

When I first linked and posted the Forbes interview of James Dyson and him talking of his Airblade, etc. it read “$140,000 in sales”.  It has since been corrected and now reads “$140,000,000” in sales.  Adding 3 zeros helps

.

Money and growth:

"Dyson, whose Malmesbury, England, company netted $64 million after taxes on sales that rose 10% last year, to $1 billion."

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In the past, Forbes UK online reported Dyson sales around $1.2 billion.  Now it looks like he is only selling $1 billion worth of goods inventions.  How many can say their privately and solely owned 15 year old business does $1 billion per year? J        DIB

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #13   Mar 29, 2008 7:38 am
Forbes is my source.  Of course, dyson is Forbes source.

Now, the question of whether the AirBlade sales are included in the $1B sales is more relevant.  $140,000 is immaterial on $1B.  $140,000,000 is very material. 

Assume for talking purposes the $140,000,000 is not in the $1B and the vacuum data is segregated [probably a good assumption].  Divide the $64 Million [dyson net profit] by wholesale units of dyson vacuums sold.  If you reasonably estimate 2 Million [USA] and 4 Million [worldwide] sold [based on NPD data], the dyson profit per unit is $16 to $32.  Say 3 MIllion worldwide [more reasonably], the net dyson profit is about $22 per vacuum sold at wholesale.  On the low side for profits for $1B in annual sales? ESPECIALLY AFTER 15 YEARS of operation.  

Sales increased 10 percent in 2007.  Dyson prices went from $400 in 2002 to $500 plus in 2007.  That's 25 percent increase.  Probably at least 10 percent passed on to retailers.   Did dyson unit sales increase?  No, probably not.  In fact, they may have gone down if sales dollars increased 10 percent on price increases of 25 percent.   And that's with increased markets and countries of sale!

Dyson would fare better as a retailer with $250 gross profit per vacuum sold before overhead and operating expenses.  The only problem now is that consumers aren't buying anymore.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #14   Apr 5, 2008 5:09 pm
mole wrote:
.....how about the airblade have they sold more than 50 units yet,I rather wipe my hands off on my trousers,,,,,,,HA, HA, HA,

SELL SELL SELL,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

THE -MOLE

many many more than 50 units........ Airblade
Sadly, the number and percentage of adult men who don't wash their hands after doing that particular function is mindboggling.  I don't think Mr. Dyson factored that into his business model for the airblade.  I don't foresee dyson staying in the hand dryer business for many years.  Why?  It's not his mainstay business, vacuums are. 
In the economic conditions dyson will face in the years ahead, he can't afford to hold onto the airblade.  Why?  Let's look at the facts:  It's going on 2 years old.  It costs $840 per unit to produce.  Sells for $1400.  Dyson sold 100,000 units.  Sales are $140,000,000.  Costs $84,000,000.  Profit is $56,000,000.  Not accounting for the 1000 units given away at a cost of $840,000.  On vacuum sales of $4 Billion [estimate for 2007] worldwide annually, who needs the headaches of an added $28 Million a year on a totally unrelated product. 
Divest.  Sell the airblade off to a company which is in the business of restroom facility products.  Cut future airblade losses.  Concentrate on vacuum sales to make up the $28 Million generated per year on the airblades. 
Carmine D.
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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #15   Nov 20, 2008 6:02 pm
A brand new casino recently opened in North Las Vegas.  All the amenities.  Imported crystal chandeliers.  Marble floors and columns.  $675 MILLION, over $400 MILLION financed. 

Unfortunately nothing from dyson from what I've seen so far.  Tho the restrooms utilize chrome hand dryers in lieu of paper/cloth  towels, they appear to be a competitor brand called XLerator.  Whoa!  What a hand dryer.  Small and compact and mounts on the wall like the soap dispenser.  The airlfow is activated by a sensor when you place your hands below.  And deactivated by the sensor when you remove your hands.  Quick, quiet, powerful and leaves your hands and wrists [arms if you are so inclined and use a unit on the wall not over the sinks]  as dry as the hot Las Vegas air.   Very impressive.  Don't know the price.  But I suspect worth every penny.  Due to it's size, appears easily adaptable for household use too. 

I did a quick time check by singing the happy birthday song!  By the time I was done singing, my hands were dry.  I suspect 10 seconds.  Nice thing, tho, the dryer keeps going until you remove your hands.  Less than 10 or more than 10 seconds.  No time limit.  Here's the Web site:

http://www.exceldryer.com/?gclid=CLOppo2FhZcCFQwNGgod51ei-Q

Carmine D.

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HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #16   Nov 20, 2008 6:25 pm
CarmineD wrote:
A brand new casino recently opened in North Las Vegas.  All the amenities.  Imported crystal chandeliers.  Marble floors and columns.  $675 MILLION, over $400 MILLION financed. 

Unfortunately nothing from dyson from what I've seen so far.  Tho the restrooms utilize chrome hand dryers in lieu of paper/cloth  towels, they appear to be a competitor brand called XCelerator.  Whoa!  What a hand dryer.  Small and compact and mounts on the wall like the soap dispenser.  The airlfow is activated by a sensor when you place your hands below.  And deactivated by the sensor when you remove your hands.  Quick, quiet, powerful and leaves your hands and wrists [arms if you are so inclined and use a unit on the wall not over the sinks]  as dry as the hot Las Vegas air.   Very impressive.  Don't know the price.  But I suspect worth every penny.  Due to it's size, appears easily adaptable for household use too. 

I did a quick time check by singing the happy birthday song!  By the time I was done singing, my hands were dry.  I suspect 10 seconds.  Nice thing, tho, the dryer keeps going until you remove your hands.  Less than 10 or more than 10 seconds.  No time limit. 

Carmine D.



This is exciting Carmine.  We have had those hand dryers in TN for some time.  Good to know that the west is catching up with us red necks. 

I seldom use those things.  I wash my privates each morning so no need to wash my hands each time I visit the toilet.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #17   Nov 20, 2008 7:29 pm
Hello HARDSELL:

The word here in the great Southwest is that them there from your neck of the woods wash in the public toilets and dry off with the toilet paper. 

Carmine D.

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M00seUK


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Points: 295

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #18   Nov 21, 2008 5:05 am
Carmine, I got the chance to try out the XCelerator recently. It's a quick as you say, but a major drawback I found was that the fast airflow tends to shoot the water off your hands and in to your face!
CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson AirBlade
Reply #19   Nov 21, 2008 6:54 am
Hello M00seUK:

I can easily understand how and why.  It's a very powerful blower.  I can see when users dry their hands on the standalone unit on the wall and lean their head into the unit's blower air, the water blowback may be a problem.  In fact, I believe the stand alone unit which is mounted on the wall may be for drying hands and face, if a customer is so inclined.  [Them there from HS's neck of the woods].

I didn't have water blowback.  I suspect largely because the blower unit is mounted on the wall with the mirrors and soap dispensers, just inches above the sinks' counter.  And behind and off the sinks' counter.  At least a good arm and neck's length away from my face.   And the stationary air blower hole is under the unit.  Not on the front/side with a swivel opening.  So my wet hands are under and below the unit during blower operation.  Any hand water blowback is deflected by the bottom of the unit and/or lands on my wrists/arms and dries instantaneously. 

Also, after washing my hands, I shake the excess water into the sink.  Then dry with paper, towel, or machine.   Interestingly, the faucet spray and handshaking water that gets onto the sink counters and mirrors were dried too by the XCelerator's operation.  Less clean up after the fact of the unsightly water stains on the sink counters and mirrors.  

Most LV casino men's rooms have a full time attendant on duty to clean up after the male patrons who may toss paper towels on the floor and mess up the sink counters with water.  This casino's restrooms do not. 

BTW, I like the maker's logo.  "It's time to throw in the towel."

Carmine D. 

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