Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

Wondering what the big diff is between the older 80's Kirbys like Heritage/Legens vs the G series in say construction, suction, sound

I know the g series is easier to push but sometimes I like the old heavy sturdier construction.

I hear the G5 has a kevlar fan & its purpleish which is nice too but also interested in the Heritage 2 or Legend...

Thanks

PS how much should you expect to spend for the older say Heritage 2 models?

mole wrote:

A new fan of the rainbow myself but more fond of the older ones. New ones are brushless motors?

Can I put an entire D3C assemlbly into a D2 case? I'm pretty sure I can do the bottom but I'm thinking the top might not work..

Always had electrolux even the old metal tanks that look like something out of flash gordon.

Too bad I don't have that one any more

They are great long lived machines for regular vacuuming.

Actually the older Kirbys and Royals cleaned about the same.

I think what you will find is the brushrolls and the airbleeds on the nozzle that make the difference.   Kirby is known for their "Tripple Cushion Vibration system" much like Hoover's "Beats as it Sweeps as it cleans".  Kirby will seal to the carpet, then slightly lift it into the nozzle thus allowing airflow under the surface to pull dirt from the bottom up at the same time it is viberating the carpet to release all the debris.

Mole can probably update us on this, but  there are some brush rolls that can't be interchanged on the Kirbys and some that can.  This is also true I believe of the Royals.  if you get a stiffer brush it will do a better job of lifting the pile of the carpet. 

Thanks I think the Royal has a stiffer brush & the older square end with a reg belt not the new ribbed. I got the roller on 3 maybe I should put it on 2 as it was when I got it. I don't think the brushes are too worn down but bearings may be old. One of my Salvation Army finds the metal vac just stood out with its gleaming finish. Got to impress when its besides those beat up plastic vacs.

Just wrote:

Just the XXX, ran from 1937 to 1952, the longest production run for the company, The machines i look for are superJ's,olymipa1's, and early silverardos, stay away from rennys, epic 8000 are a great performer,L.E, ambassadors, epic 6500's sell well. I'm still looking for a hospital G,i have lots of blue and brown ones out there.The best kept secret with electrolux is their discovery,genesis,legacy,uprights along with the pro lux commercial machine machines. These machines will and have lasted over 25 years,with service in between,Another odd machine to play with lately is compacts,and tristars, I sold a lot of filterqueens,feedback always the same like kirbys [too hard to use].The machine is no good to you if you cant use it, i dont care how many cyclones it uses.

MOLE

I got a Olympia & Silverado Deluxe as well as the 2200 All Salvation Army finds

I'm lthinking of selling the O for space...LOL

Has the PN4 power nozzle

I don't know what the old one I had was & we had one with that round thing on the back too

Darn wish I had them now.

I left it when I moved & it worked but didn;'t suck as well as the 2100 but now I;m thinking it probably was just a bad hose

Boy was I naive...

mole wrote:

Surely you meant pleated filters.  We all know that anyone who can't use a Dyson is a moron.

HARDSELL wrote:

You know what H.S., I would agree with you the hoover windtunnel is a little more messier to empty than the dyson, But when both machines are running right the W.T will clean faster than the dyson.........

MOLE

mole wrote:

I do not agree, however, the WT will only clean for a few minutes before the filter is clogged.  That screen is even more difficult to clean on Hoovers.

My experience is that Hoover also has poor hose suction.

HARDSELL wrote:
Got to agree with Hardsell on this one...Hoovers clog too easily and that screen is for the birds. The idea (according to the sales pitch) is to save you time and money by buying a bagless. You definitely spend more on filters than you would on bags.

Hoover Wind Tunnel is Amazing for maybe 5 minutes to 10 but that hepa is filled with every use. & suction goes way down with the smallest debris.

I literally am combing the hepa after each use as the pleats are coated with a powder. I don't know what it is

maybe cement dust from the concrete under the padding? but Ihave done this now for a few weeks & it never ends.

Thing is I'm glad its getting this stuff but the cleaning the filter is an awful mess. I do it outside & ity flies everywhere.

I suppose its really doing a great job of filtering so I am putting up with it but thought it would end & it still picks up things.

So it works well but is very limited time use & for me just a after vacuuming additional pain just to see the rugs still are a mess.

Maybe we are not meant to be filtering that highly but to think all that powder crap is around is not pleasant.

Reg vacs must just blow that crap out the exhaust containing just the large particles.

Maybe we should have air filters instead.

Did you see that Mielhe guy w his meter

Seems every vac but the miele is not good at capturing all the particles.

I lug that Hovver around for a few minutes just to have the fun of purging the filter of that dusty filth but I don';t have anything better to take care of it

but that windtunnel sucks amazing & the naps stands up better than anything I've used yet so I deal w it