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Venson


Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Points: 1900

Roomba for improvement . . .
Original Message   Aug 22, 2007 6:23 pm
Hi all,

Believe it or not, Roomba has already reached the five-year mark. How time flies.  I've attached a link to an article regarding improvements that will make the Roomba sturdier and allow the little machine to deal with tassels on carpets and elecrical cords that may be lying about.  (Something I'd never considered.)

Per the article, 2,000,000 Roombas have been sold so far.  However there appears to be some question as to how well they survive daily use, which really would be the best way to employ them.  Models prior the new 500 series had only about a 150 hour lifetime.  A company head claims that this gadget in its newest form will be able to put in an hour a day everyday for three to five years.  I wanna see this.

Try out the link -- http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070822/ap_on_hi_te/techbit_robo_vac_redesign_2

Best,

Venson

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Roomba for improvement . . .
Reply #9   Jun 18, 2008 2:28 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Carmine,

Your “ratcheting” stories are legendary here.        DIB


DIB:

And so are my comments about the puny dyson brush bars in these models.  And my noting of the absolutely ridiculous u bend airway on the DC07 that constantly fell off when people pressed the tab with their feet thinking it was the handle release.  Dyson, in its infinite wisdom, did not show users how to attach it.  Not even mentioned in the 50 page Users Guide.  Took the BEST BUY staff 20 minutes and they still couldn't do it.  After I suffered long enough with their ineptitude, I showed them.  One was a sales supervisor with years of experience.

I more likely accomplished perhaps what all the 450 dyson engineers and a swat team of designers could not:  The discontinuance of these dyson models and the scrubbing of the ridiculous clutch/brushbar on all the later dyson models.  Constructive criticism is good.  Even when I have to pound away at it for years before it is heeded. 

Carmine D.

This message was modified Jun 18, 2008 by CarmineD
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Roomba for improvement . . .
Reply #10   Jun 18, 2008 9:15 pm
CarmineD wrote:
DIB:

And so are my comments about the puny dyson brush bars in these models.  And my noting of the absolutely ridiculous u bend airway on the DC07 that constantly fell off when people pressed the tab with their feet thinking it was the handle release.  Dyson, in its infinite wisdom, did not show users how to attach it.  Not even mentioned in the 50 page Users Guide.  Took the BEST BUY staff 20 minutes and they still couldn't do it.  After I suffered long enough with their ineptitude, I showed them.  One was a sales supervisor with years of experience.

I more likely accomplished perhaps what all the 450 dyson engineers and a swat team of designers could not:  The discontinuance of these dyson models and the scrubbing of the ridiculous clutch/brushbar on all the later dyson models.  Constructive criticism is good.  Even when I have to pound away at it for years before it is heeded. 

Carmine D.



Dyson is a modern vacuum meant to be used by intelligent people.  It is too advanced for the likes of you.  I bet you also balked at the auto transmission in vehicles, TV and air conditioning.
DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Re: Roomba for improvement . . .
Reply #11   Jun 19, 2008 3:26 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Carmine,

Your “ratcheting” stories are legendary here.        DIB


DIB:

And so are my comments about the puny dyson brush bars in these models.  And my noting of the absolutely ridiculous u bend airway on the DC07 that constantly fell off when people pressed the tab with their feet thinking it was the handle release.  Dyson, in its infinite wisdom, did not show users how to attach it.  Not even mentioned in the 50 page Users Guide.  Took the BEST BUY staff 20 minutes and they still couldn't do it.  After I suffered long enough with their ineptitude, I showed them.  One was a sales supervisor with years of experience.

I more likely accomplished perhaps what all the 450 dyson engineers and a swat team of designers could not:  The discontinuance of these dyson models and the scrubbing of the ridiculous clutch/brushbar on all the later dyson models.  Constructive criticism is good.  Even when I have to pound away at it for years before it is heeded. 

Carmine D.

This message was modified Yesterday by CarmineD

Carmine,

…As well, your petty pot-shots targeting James are legendary too.  The U-bend coming off and being difficult for some to reattach does not bother me in the slightest.  Infinite wisdom I know not.  But it is easy to forgive a u-bend occasionally coming off knowing James had his hands full inventing a radical and worlds first inverted multi-cyclone filtration for a (his) vacuum cleaner.  What was Oreck or any other manufacturer creating during this same period that was so great?  Nothing!

 

Does James have 450 engineers and a swat team of designers dedicated solely to vacuum innovation and design?

 

Is putting a (your) preferred brush roll onto a DC07 the fix-all to pickup?        DIB


CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Roomba for improvement . . .
Reply #12   Jun 19, 2008 6:45 am

Carmine…As well, your petty pot-shots targeting James are legendary too.  The U-bend coming off and being difficult for some to reattach does not bother me in the slightest.  Infinite wisdom I know not.  But it is easy to forgive a u-bend occasionally coming off knowing James had his hands full inventing a radical and worlds first inverted multi-cyclone filtration for a (his) vacuum cleaner.  What was Oreck or any other manufacturer creating during this same period that was so great?  Nothing!

  DIB

Thanks again DIB:

I credited dyson in the past for resolving the problem with the ubend air way within the first year of production.  No doubt he took the constructive criticism to heart and profited from it.  I might add thanks to "pot shots' from the likes of me.  It was a nuisance and distraction.  Unworthy of a $500 product.  Dyson recognized that fact and made the change on the DC07 real quick.  It was a buck item that threatened to derail his launch. 

The concept you haven't grasped is that ORECK is a respected brand name and product.  It's earned a prominent place in the vacuum industry.  Dyson hasn't.  I might add so has Roomba.

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Roomba for improvement . . .
Reply #13   Jun 19, 2008 7:10 am
HARDSELL wrote:
Dyson is a modern vacuum meant to be used by intelligent people.  It is too advanced for the likes of you.  I bet you also balked at the auto transmission in vehicles, TV and air conditioning.


I have one question about modern and intelligent:  Dysons never clog and therefore don't lose suction.

What happened to change this on new dysons?

Carmine D.

This message was modified Jun 19, 2008 by CarmineD
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Roomba for improvement . . .
Reply #14   Jun 19, 2008 6:06 pm
CarmineD wrote:

Carmine…As well, your petty pot-shots targeting James are legendary too.  The U-bend coming off and being difficult for some to reattach does not bother me in the slightest.  Infinite wisdom I know not.  But it is easy to forgive a u-bend occasionally coming off knowing James had his hands full inventing a radical and worlds first inverted multi-cyclone filtration for a (his) vacuum cleaner.  What was Oreck or any other manufacturer creating during this same period that was so great?  Nothing!

  DIB

Thanks again DIB:

I credited dyson in the past for resolving the problem with the ubend air way within the first year of production.  No doubt he took the constructive criticism to heart and profited from it.  I might add thanks to "pot shots' from the likes of me.  It was a nuisance and distraction.  Unworthy of a $500 product.  Dyson recognized that fact and made the change on the DC07 real quick.  It was a buck item that threatened to derail his launch. 

The concept you haven't grasped is that ORECK is a respected brand name and product.  It's earned a prominent place in the vacuum industry.  Dyson hasn't.  I might add so has Roomba.

Carmine D.


Pot shots from fools like you never fell on Dyson ears.   I have read at least 500 Dyson reviews and you are the only one to mention the ubend problem.  If J D valued your opinion I feel certain that he would mention your name at least once in all of those interviews.  He would probably fire all his engineers and hire just you. 

What does it say for a product when a manufacturer (Oreck)  have to offer free gifts to sell them?  Roomba is a joke.  BTW, when will we get a report on your Roomba which probably would be a replacement for your Oreck broom.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Roomba for improvement . . .
Reply #15   Jun 19, 2008 6:52 pm
HARDSELL wrote:

I have read at least 500 Dyson reviews and you are the only one to mention the ubend problem. 


Reading your review 500 times doesn't count.  Reading mine once, does!

Carmine D.

HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Roomba for improvement . . .
Reply #16   Jun 19, 2008 8:25 pm
CarmineD wrote:

Reading your review 500 times doesn't count.  Reading mine once, does!

Carmine D.



Only in your mind.
HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Roomba for improvement . . .
Reply #17   Jun 20, 2008 12:37 am
CarmineD wrote:
I have one question about modern and intelligent:  Dysons never clog and therefore don't lose suction.

What happened to change this on new dysons?

Carmine D.



You can find many posts like this one made in March 2008.

 I recently bought the Oreck, after falling for the ads on tv and in print, about the suction power and the lightweight advantage. I love the fact that it isn't heavy, and the suction is fine, but the design is flawed, as it clogs almost every time I use it. I have to take it apart and clear out the entry area right behind the beater brush. It has a sharp angle, and debris gets caught up in there. I have long haired dogs and use the vacuum a lot. If I suck up a tiny piece of paper or even a 1/2 inch long leaf, it clogs and the hair won't go up into the bag. I am very disappointed. I spent nearly $300 and had I known, I would have just bought another 79.00 Bissell, as it never clogged.

Posted June 2008:

I ordered an Oreck on line while sitting at home with a broken ankle. To say I am disappointed is an understatement. There is amost no suction. It picks up nothing but dust. Particles and pieces of paper are left on the floor. It needs to be forced across the floor. By the time you finish one area, you have had a work out. What I needed to know before buying this product was that I would have been better off with a good broom. Not only is it not worth what I paid for it, its not worth the shipping cost. DO NOT BUY THIS PRODUCT IF YOU WANT TO CLEAN YOUR FLOOR. IT'S NOT WORTH ONE STAR.

CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Roomba for improvement . . .
Reply #18   Jun 20, 2008 6:26 am
Hello HARDSELL:

Looks like you posted your own reviews.  No need.  We know already how you feel and think.

I plan to buy/use a robot cleaner, probably Roomba.  Most likely in my garage.  I believe it's called the Dirt Dog.  I must admit, I've used the ORECK many times on my garage cement floor and the area rugs I have in the garage.  THe ORECK works great, picking up leaves, pepples, sand and many dead desert insects.  Pretty large ones.   No clogs, no loss in performance.  Hence, the reason I don't believe anonymous negative reviews about ORECK-s. 

The Roomba DIrt Dog won't replace the ORECK.  Just supplement.  The ORECK is a keeper. 

Carmine D.

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